I've never hunted at Tejon ranch. I was thinking of bow hunting pigs there. Anyone ever use their guide service? Is it worth the price? I thought with a guide, I would learn the layout a little quicker for hunting on my own in the next trip.
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Do you mean their one-on-one guide hunts? You could do that or you could pay a little less for a semi-guided hunt through the archery shop hunts. For me that was a good way to get to know the archery area AND they let you in on good spots where pigs have been recently. $100 more than the Pig slams, but cheaper than the one-on-one hunts.
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If you want to archery hunt Tejon Ranch call Don Smith at Archery Sports in Simi Valley, CA. He does hunts on the ranch that are archery only. It is just like the Pig-O-Rama's that Tejon sponsors, but this is archery only. The cost is $300 for 3 days hunting. You can camp or bring a trailer/rv to stay, stay at his ranch house, or stay in a motel. The hunts begin at 5am on Friday and end at 1/2 hour after sunset on Sunday. You are only allowed one pig, but I believe the largest wins $500. It's a blast and everyone there is very helpful if it's your first time. The next hunt is February 27th. The number of hunters is limited so it's best to get your apps in early. Hope to see some you there.
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Greenleaf,
I did mine through these guys:
http://www.performancebowhunting.com/boar1.htm
But most of the archery shops in Southern Cal have organized trips like this to Tejon. Instead of the 50 guys that hunt the Pig-o-Ramas, there's only like 8 or so. Don Smith that Kodiak mentioned is involved in these hunts that aren't out of his shop as well. In fact, when I booked mine though Bob Fromme's San Diego shop, Don ended up doing the guiding. The guiding is basically a trip through the ranch and he let's you off at spots where he knows pigs have been recently, he gives you some strategic pointers and the rest is up to you. 7 out of 8 of us scored so it seemed to be a good system, at least for our trip. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I did mine through these guys:
http://www.performancebowhunting.com/boar1.htm
But most of the archery shops in Southern Cal have organized trips like this to Tejon. Instead of the 50 guys that hunt the Pig-o-Ramas, there's only like 8 or so. Don Smith that Kodiak mentioned is involved in these hunts that aren't out of his shop as well. In fact, when I booked mine though Bob Fromme's San Diego shop, Don ended up doing the guiding. The guiding is basically a trip through the ranch and he let's you off at spots where he knows pigs have been recently, he gives you some strategic pointers and the rest is up to you. 7 out of 8 of us scored so it seemed to be a good system, at least for our trip. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Some Tejon Ranch hog history….told to me by my guide, Darrel who is part investor too.
Darrel told me that hog were planted on the Tejon property about 8 years ago and they planted the purest strain of Russian hog they could find. That is why Tejon Takes about 95% black Russian pig.
Approximately 900 hogs are taken per year on there property with a bigger numbers forecast for this year.
That’s a avg. of 2.46 hogs taken per day with most of the animals being taken are less then two years old and are in the range of 120 to 200 lbs.
Darrel told me that hog were planted on the Tejon property about 8 years ago and they planted the purest strain of Russian hog they could find. That is why Tejon Takes about 95% black Russian pig.
Approximately 900 hogs are taken per year on there property with a bigger numbers forecast for this year.
That’s a avg. of 2.46 hogs taken per day with most of the animals being taken are less then two years old and are in the range of 120 to 200 lbs.
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I hunted a private property that bordered the Tejon on the Northeast side and seen many different colored hogs. A couple of years ago I killed on that's all brown. I saw a group that have several hogs with a white collar around the neck and shoulders. I saw a lone pig from about 300 yards that was black with white spots all over. There's no doubt in my mind that those hogs also wandered onto the Tejon Ranch.
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a pure strain wild russan boar will have 38 chromosomes as well as the pure strains of european boar, while due to inbreading and inneraction with other species of the swine family the pigs can have 36,37 or 38 chromosomes.
the domestic porkers have 37 chromosomes.
is everyone up to speed?
(by the way..... i read this stuff in a book)
the domestic porkers have 37 chromosomes.
is everyone up to speed?
(by the way..... i read this stuff in a book)
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The biologists are generally in concurrence that there are NO pure Russian Strain boars in the state, unless they are recent imports to a game farm.
There's a lot of argument about the remaining purity of the herd, but if anybody outside of a fenced game farm tells you you're chasing pure-strain Russian boar in CA, they're full of it.
I have talked to a couple of folks from Tejon, and there apparently is some desire to manage for all black hogs, but that doesn't make them pure-strain. It just makes the high-paying "dudes" think they are.
There's a lot of argument about the remaining purity of the herd, but if anybody outside of a fenced game farm tells you you're chasing pure-strain Russian boar in CA, they're full of it.
I have talked to a couple of folks from Tejon, and there apparently is some desire to manage for all black hogs, but that doesn't make them pure-strain. It just makes the high-paying "dudes" think they are.
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I agree Spec,
I think they are managing them to achieve a group of hogs with a certain appealing look to the hunter. And I actually prefer the black hogs also, even though I know darn well that a pure eurasian boar isn't black at all, they're off brown. I know they all taste the same but I just happen to like the look of the "classic" California wild pig- black as possible, shaggy as possible, straightest tail possible. I also am not fond of the term "Russian" because it's a bit meaningless. I must say though that you can get some pretty european-looking hogs up in the Central/coastal part of the state. Some can almost pass for "Russian" (Eurasian).
FOr me that would be the unltimate boar to come across one day.
I think they are managing them to achieve a group of hogs with a certain appealing look to the hunter. And I actually prefer the black hogs also, even though I know darn well that a pure eurasian boar isn't black at all, they're off brown. I know they all taste the same but I just happen to like the look of the "classic" California wild pig- black as possible, shaggy as possible, straightest tail possible. I also am not fond of the term "Russian" because it's a bit meaningless. I must say though that you can get some pretty european-looking hogs up in the Central/coastal part of the state. Some can almost pass for "Russian" (Eurasian).
FOr me that would be the unltimate boar to come across one day.
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California still has quite a few areas with some pretty pure European genes. I know that I haven't seen hogs killed in any other states that look as "pure" as the ones we have. I catch hogs all the time that I know could be transported back to to Europe and nobody could tell the difference. I do catch hogs that you can see some domestic traits in them, like spotted or have some white on them, but they're more rare than the "pure" looking ones. I'll post a pic of one of a hog caught this weekend and you'll see what I mean.
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Thanks. I'm just keeping up my civic duty to control the hog population, well, that's what I tell my wife anyhow.
Hmmm.. I was told by someone at Tejon that the pig population was started by about 10 pigs escaping from a nearby game farm and that once they realized what a cash cow they had they started supplimenting the herd, I've seen many multi-colored pigs at Tejon, south side
