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The Miracle of the African Trophy

As a Professional Hunter and Safari consultant I’m quizzed on many African Hunting topics. One of the most common is “how do we get the skins and horns home”. Or I hear the horror of what the hunter received in his crate and what his options are in getting them replaced. They ask me what the outfitter should be required to do to help them with the poor or unusable condition the skins arrived in. Many had the greatest experience of their lives on the Safari, but have no quality trophies to mount. What they remember most from the experience is the stress and anger in the quality of the returned hides and horns.

I’ve sat with some of these people at sportsmans shows I have done. They truly are very happy with the experience they had hunting, they are glowing with the excitement they are sharing while telling the stories about the trip. Yet the reason they stopped to talk with me was to ask about what should the outfitter be required to do for ruining his trophies? This is not an uncommon experience. It’s very rare to have every trophy spoiled or hair slipped. It’s more common to have one cape, or a part of one cape slipped or spoiled. It has been seen where a crate shows up and it’s infested with beetles or other bugs. I worked for years at a really large Taxidermy operation that had a strong African business. The crates arriving to us monthly had bugs inside all the time. Capes had green mold on them, horns were broken, the Skins had been wet and dried and began rotting in the crate. This problem was stressful to me even 25 years ago, and it was not my business! The owner of the taxidermy business just looked at it as “Oh Well” not my problem this is the way they came to me. He would make the call to the hunter and tell him the situation regarding the trophy condition. The owners really had very little they could do, so they replied “do your best with my trophies”

So, why the trouble with getting quality trophies out of Africa? How come so many have no trouble at all yet others lose some or all of the trophies they shipped back? Let’s look at the process and logistics of this part of the Safari and what causes or is likely the cause of the problems. I’ll start with the actual hunt right from the beginning of the process. Let’s also put into perspective that the trophies are often being shot in 80-100 deg weather along with bright sunshine.

Once the animal is shot, it will be moved and twisted and dragged to position for photos. Rough handling to be sure, but nothing unusual or that would not also be done back in North America or Europe. However this is the beginning of what will eventually be a long process of stress to the skin and hair. After the photo’s you walk, or drive back to the camp to get some staff to load the game in a truck. This could be anywhere from a few minutes to an hour or more. All this time the animal is in the sun, in warm to outright hot weather. It could also be shot late in the evening and not be recovered until the next morning.

Once you arrive back on site, if you do go back with the crew, the staff will wrestle and winch, lift and tug on this animal to get it into the truck. Then the trip back to the skinning area with the animal. They will hang it and skin it out, butcher the meat, or hang that in a cool room. Another staff member, usually the most skilled of the crew will do the final caping of the head skin. After the skin is removed it’s rinsed off and soaked in an anti-bacteria solution. The observation here is that some rather unskilled minimally trained people are usually the ones doing this. They are also several levels removed from the final results. The concern they show and the responsibility they take is usually rather limited. The education they have is minimal, they do not even have the concept that anything could be wrong with the solution to consider or worry about that. As the morning sun rises and the sunshine is now at various angles some hides sit in direct sunshine, while others may be in the shade. There is simply no grasp of the concepts of preserving skins or the little details like sunshine and bacteria. Once this skin has been soaked for a couple hours it’s hung to drip dry. It’s likely been many hours now since the animals death. This step should be eliminated in my professional opinion. The addition of soaking the hides in some warm water without any chemical knowledge or ph level of this solution, not knowing what the bacteria levels might be in this “anti bacteria” solution are strongly suspect.

Just salting the hides right after skinning has been very successful for over 100 years now. I’m not convinced that the average staffs experience or education in most operations is at a level to diagnose any problems. It will have been many hours before the first salt hits the skin. Here is one of the biggest questions in the process. What kind of salt? Rock salt is a bad choice. Fine ground salt is best. The majority of camps I have seen in Both RSA and Zimbabwe have used something like crushed rock salt. Not at all a fine grind, but better then true rock salt. Some camps I have seen use the salt over and over as well. Once bacteria gets into the salt it gets introduced to the next skins. I don’t see a problem with using clean dry salt over one more time, but when it’s reddish or brown and bloody using it a second time is a real problem and sure to cause trouble down the road. Now the skin is left to let the salt do its work. About two days later it will be re-salted and let to sit one or more days before it is hung on a wooden rail to air dry before it’s folded and allowed to sit awaiting the dip process which is usually done off site in a Dip Pack Processing facility.

After your trophy arrives at the Dip Pack Facility is re-hydrated for the dip Process and again put into an antibacterial solution. Then it’s soaked in a solution that assures no disease or other problems in the skin can come across the ocean and cause troubles in the USA. All the skulls are boiled and horns removed. It’s a process that is measured and controlled by the Veterinary administration in South Africa. The “Dip Pack” folks doing this process have no real means of cutting corners on it because each and every shipment must be inspected and signed off by the local veterinarian before it can be shipped out of the country.

After the inspection is over and signed off, the crate is sealed up and taken to the airport or shipper. Here is another issue. There was not much concern over the wood used to build the crates until recently. Because of this much of the lumber was old or stored where bugs could get burrowed into it. These beetles could hatch and get into the trophies after the crate was sealed up. There is also another very troubling issue that happens to the majority of trophy shipments. Because much of the sport hunting takes place in May through July, many of these crates are ready to ship to the USA in the mid winter months of December and January. These months are the middle of Summer here in South Africa, the primary departure point for most of the trophies hunted anyplace in southern Africa.

Because this is a more rainy time of year, and also very hot those crates sitting in the sun can cause serious issues for the somewhat perishable contents. Add to that, the possible water and moisture while staged waiting for the flights. Also consider that the trophies done perfectly and packed with flawless precision using new treated wood are stacked right with those which have not been done as well. They may be stacked up with other crates that have nothing at all to do with trophies or hunting. Those wood crates may not have any legal requirement with using treated wood. Insects know no boundaries but are very much attracted to the possible oils, blood, grease smells coming from within your crate filled with hides and horns! The warm weather is the peak of insect activity as well. There is a better then likely possibility that your crate full of trophies if delivered to the airport in late November will still be there in January. During the holiday season perishable items are the priority. Dried salted trophies are not listed as perishable. So your wood crate will be warehoused indoors or maybe outdoors with stacks and stacks of other crates awaiting it’s turn to load onto the jet.

Once your crate leaves the Airport and makes the trip across the Atlantic it arrives in a shippers warehouse in the USA. Then a broker will usually arrive to clear the Customs and Federal F&W process. Its then put on a truck and shipped across country to your home, taxidermist, or tannery. The likely freezing and thawing and sitting in the sun in a roasting hot Trailer is a real possibility depending on where it’s headed . Here begins another whole series of processing. If you had a Primate or Wild swine in the crate, The Import Broker must deliver it to a Agriculture Department Permit holder. From there it must be processed with specific regulations for these species. Then it can be shipped to the taxidermist or tannery. Once the crate arrives at the tannery or taxidermist the skins and horns will be processed yet again by them. The skins are re-hydrated and the tanning process begins. I have also heard of stories about Warthogs on the manifest being signed for by the Broker, processed by the Agriculture department, but not in the crate when the Taxidermist gets it. Somehow these trophies managed to get through the crime ridden country of South Africa but show up missing upon arrival traveling within the USA! How can this happen? I personally had two Warthogs shipped to me by UPS from across the USA. Only one was in the box when it arrived. I know the person shipping them, I spoke to the Shipper who packed them. They were both in the box in Washington DC when they were packaged up. Along the way did somebody from the carrier open and steal my warthog skull? It’s gone, and nothing I can do to recover it now.

Here is a very touchy subject for many taxidermists. It’s my very strong opinion that African Skins dried as hard as a sheet of plywood must be handled by an African skilled taxidermist. These are handled much differently then a fresh whitetail cape brought in to the same taxidermist. If you really want to have a successful completion of this whole event, choose wisely. Those who say they tan their own skins would be very suspect for me. Those part time small scale taxidermists might be less expensive, but do they really understand the complex nature of reviving these dried skins? Sure they may get a few to turn out well, but is that worth the risk for all of them? The best places to look for success are those which do a whole lot of African Taxidermy, and use a premier tannery which is also experienced and skilled in African game.

Skins that fail in tanning because of their minimal experience and skills can easily be written off as poor prior handling in Africa. Who could argue with that, based on the process I have already described. The tannery and the taxidermist will have the standard disclaimer that nothing that happens is their fault, you signed this when you dropped the trophies off, or agreed to the work! This disclaimer was originated because of the prior problems that can happen during the various processes that occur before they even get the hides. They can after all only work with what they get! On the other hand I know of 5 hunters in a camp at the same time a few seasons ago. 4 used the same high end African specific taxidermist in the USA and all had perfect results. The other used a little known small scale taxidermist to save a few bucks. He lost almost all his trophies due to the skins failing. He called and was as you might expect quite upset. His taxidermist claimed the hides were all bad. Yet his four buddies all hunting with him the whole time bringing in trophies the same days, handled exactly the same had no trouble whatever. He demanded all new capes and that the pack and dip also be paid. How could this be? With that camp having 150 exported capes during the same season all over the world only this mans trophies were bad? I suspect his small scale taxidermist was the common denominator and not the process or any of the people from the start. However his trophies missed the early winter shipping deadline and only arrived in late winter. So was it a problem while staged in the warehousing area awaiting shipment to America? Yet another couple guys had beetle infestation on trophies, they too had crates staged for a while at the airport awaiting the flight to the USA.

One of the easily solved parts of this puzzle is to be certain that the crate is shipped before November 15th or After Jan 15th. It’s the way the really skilled and experienced Dip Pack processors in RSA are doing this now. They have learned to avoid the holiday rush. Now they ship before November or later in February or even March when there is a minimal backlog for these crates to be held up. I know one who has the space and holds the crates until they are going to leave. He will only dispatch them the week they leave to meet the flight. As far as what the Outfitter or Dip Pack company is responsible for…………well that’s a very tough call. How can anyone take total blame without a specific issue or failure that they may have caused? When folks question me about what they can do to recover lost trophies or getting a refund of some sort from their outfitter, I’m at a loss for how they can get anything. Proof of fault is going to be very complicated. As I have written here the likely problems in Africa are high, but shipping and insect or moldy wet hides from shipping are known issues. As are faults involving American Taxidermists and tanneries. The Outfitter is most likely going to say I had no other issues from the dozens of hunters we had last season, so it cannot be my process. The Dip Pack will claim the same thing. However if the Outfitter hears about problems from several hunters, and used the same dip pack process for them all, well that narrows the problem area down a bit. In the case above where all the trophies were good except for the one guy who used his own taxidermist……. Well that also narrows down who I would suspect at as well.

Finally the tanned skin comes to the taxidermist. He will re-hydrate the skin yet again! Then he must stretch it back to its original living size to be able to fit this on the forms used to do the mount. Picture if you will a dried leather chamois cloth its stiff and brittle feeling. Yet when wet it’s almost like skin again. Then the taxidermist must align the skin and fight a bit with it to make it fit correctly.

The finger pointing with a dozen people involved from the effort of pulling the game into position for photo’s, to the taxidermist stretching the hide over the manikin can be impossible to sort through. Now you can look at your trophies with a whole new level of enjoyment. The final product will last just about forever if kept cool and dry. But it’s a miracle your capes make it this far at all. There are so many people along the way that can ruin this for you. So when you are sitting in your living room or trophy room admiring the trophies and your successful hunt. Think about what that hide has gone through to get put on your wall.
 

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Good post, got any more tips that the hunter can use to keep his trophies from arriving as damaged goods? It just seems that so much is out of the hunter's control. Kinda like you just cross your fingers and hope for the best.
 

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This question reminds of the saying that a girl spends more time picking out her wedding dress then she does picking out her husband.

Plan wisely and ask your outfitter as much about the process after the hunt as you do about when you hunt. Getting back a crate full of garbage you cannot mount is going to ruin the experience for you.

Get the contact info for the dip pack and speak with the fella. If your not comfortable with the Dip Pack then maybe you should rethink the outfitter as well. Your buying the whole package after all. You can use any Dip Pack you want. They will come fetch your trophies the last day, or you can drop them off on the way to the airport. Look around at these options. Too many people take this for granted and leave it up to the outfitter who gets a kickback. It may not be the best Dip Pack he chooses, but rather the one who pays him the greatest dividend.

For the record, I don't own any part of a dip pack business, and have never received a single penny of kickback. I go for the best process and the most well respected company I can find. The last thing I want is a hunters opinion of me ruined because his trophies failed. It can still happen,..... but I'll sleep good knowing it was not my team, or the Pack and Dip Team that caused any problems!

Some things.................like this..................Are far more important then any amount of money that could be made by a poor choice on my part!
 

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That sounds great and all, and I don't see anything factually wrong with anything you have said there. I am with you 100% on many of the topics.
-Hobbiest taxidermists trying to "home tan" skins from anywhere in the world
-process etc.



However, damaged skins happen more in RSA, specificly the Northern Transvaal, than anywhere else I have seen in the world, including cold and humid areas like Russia, Kazakstan and New Zealand. While I wasn't thrilled the the specific PH I had or his lack of archery experience I must say that Peter Johnstone's operation in Zimbabwe handled our skins better than anyone else I have seen. During the 80's and early to mid 90's there seemed to be far less damage coming with skins. Now I know there have been major political changes in RSA that I'm sure have trickled down to affect the quality. Why do you believe that there is so much more damage done to skins in this area? I've seen skins from Cameroon, CAR and places like that that have ultra high humidity, extreme temperatures and are far more primative that also come back with less damage on average. Its not just skins, its also skulls. Overboiled skulls that are brittle or have split teeth. I'll getting my files with damage, I'll post them up but it just seems that its everyone passing the buck. Clients, right or wrong, are going to place the responsibility on the Ph that their trophies are going to the shipper in good shape, that the shipper/dipper will keep them in great shape and that shipping will be expedited in fast order and that skins will be handled and folded correctly and that they will not be received with torn off legs or ears. I've seen the missing appendages due to the dipper folding things wrong and then not packing them carefully. It hasn't always been like this, and its not this bad elsewhere. What are outfitters such as yourself doing to ensure that skins and skulls are in perfect shape when they leave the shipper/dipper?

I'm talking about the using clean salt, making sure skins are resalted multiple times, making sure they are hung up so liquid can be dripped out of the hair? Are Ph's making sure that skinners aren't leaving a Kudu skull boiling for 3 hours? Do PH's take skins to the dipper frequently or do they sit in the skinning shed for weeks? Are PH's pressuring dippers to use a dry "dipping" process as certified by the USDA so the skins aren't rehydrated? Are crates being shipped with mothballs to prevent beetles from getting in? Are shippers suggesting air cargo versus cargo via ship? Are the shippers communicating with the client about shipping status and are clients or taxidermists or whomever is in charge of overseeing the clearing process doing whatever they can to facilitate speeding processing times? I don't believe much of this is being done well enough. Damage will happen, but if the process was better less damage will occurr


Damaged skins photo gallery
The link above will take you to a series of 32 photos of skins rejected from New Method Fur Dressers. They are a respected tannery. The photos show hides in various stages of damage, some with patches of slip spots, some with large holes where the skin just fell apart and some that are almost completely bald. I have hundreds more on another computer showing skulls with damage and steenbok and blesbok with missing legs or ears, torn off due to rough handling and improper folding at the dipper, the way they were folded, they didn't have a chance.
 

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There are a few terms to sort out here, I'm pretty sure you meant well but the wrong term may be getting used where some of the responsibility lies.

The PH is simply the staff member in charge of the hunting. He's not the one which has or takes any responsibility for the boiling of skulls, or the dip pack process.

That responsibility is handled by the Dip pack processor who is always off site, it you want it to be done properly. ( similiar to home tanning issues). The outfitter or sometimes the landoower is typically the responsible party for hiring the skinners, PH, cook and all the remaining staff. He buys the salt, and provides the area for the skinning and everything else responsible for this safari company effort.

This is the case in almost all of Southern Africa. Some more remote operations have the PH manage everything as he may also be the outfitter in many cases. In my business I'm the outfitter, a PH, and I own the whole business. So I've got my nose into every aspect of day in day out operations. The fault with many operations that coast along is the lack of vision to the future.

Booking agents book a whole lot of hunts with outfitters who then get overbooked and those outfitters share clients with Local PH's to carry the load. That PH assumes that the skinners used and the salt provided are going to be fine. The minute they finish the days hunt, the PH is up to the lodge drinking and chatting up the clients. They mistake their responsibility for being "only a PH",. Rather then to take full responsibility for the operation which they have taken from another outfitter. Many of these PH's don't really consider the trophy care because it can never be pinned on them. It will always be somebody else in the string of people that touch these hides.

These PH's work for lots of outfitters throughout the season. The outfitter may take some heat, but it will be deflected to the Dip Pack or the shipper, or who knows. Blame cannot be determined once the dried spoiled skins arrive at a tannery some 6-9 months later. There should be a responsible person to take control of this operation. Not left to the completely uneducated and careless seasonal staff that is handling all these trophies.

Working directly with a PH that will handle your trophy care should be well sorted out far in advance of the deposit. Hunting with a well known experienced safari company that has a very diciplined process for trophy care is critical if your bringing anything home. Don't buy into the "Don't worry about that, we do 100's a year and never had a problem." Yeah not that you would be able to track by any means! I cannot stress enough the need to call refrences to see how the trophy care was done.

I would also look into the salting operation while I was on site, these are your trophies after all take some responsibility for them, you own them! and make the demand of new fine ground salt, while your there. We have one of the best operations for skinning and salting in the whole of RSA. Yet I have had hunters with Taxidermy experience second guess things, or question things we were doing. I welcome this input, or questioning because I'm proud of what we do. Having worked as a taxidermist myself much of my life and having owned my own Taxidermy business, I view the way trophies are handled as if they were going to be mounted by me.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jjhack @ Nov 1 2007, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I would also look into the salting operation while I was on site, these are your trophies after all take some responsibility for them, you own them! and make the demand of new fine ground salt, while your there. We have one of the best operations for skinning and salting in the whole of RSA. Yet I have had hunters with Taxidermy experience second guess things, or question things we were doing. I welcome this input, or questioning because I'm proud of what we do.[/b]
When I read your topic I sent a copy to a client who's Kudu had been rejected by New Method Tannery. He also wondered "how could this happen" Thanks for the detailed write-up.
The first time that I had recieved ocellated turkeys from the jungles of the Yucatan, all were skinned and salted and most had rank smelling legs/feet. Leg scales were very loose.
When I went down there to hunt with the same outfitter who had been sending me these birds, I was very confident in the camp skinner and even let him skin my own birds while I began making cast of the fresh turkey heads.
I had no problem with their skinning and salting proceedures but then they left the skins outside in cardboard boxes in high heat and humidity conditions. I asked the outfitter if he didn't mind putting the salted skins on top of the large blocks of ice inside of his giant wooden ice-box. I explained to him that the legs would spoil if left out in the heat. He was happy for the input and welcomed my ideas.
When I killed an antelope in Nevada this past july it was noon and around 102 degrees, no shade. While I began skinning the antelope where he lay, no dragging, my wife began erecting a shade canopy to keep both me and the antelope cool. I've never been to Africa but if I do I would not let my trophies lay on the hot dirt in the blazing sun while the PH goes to...............
 

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I think this might be some of the problems, apparently not with your operation but with many others, we are getting a passing of the buck from the PH right from the point the animal hits the ground. JHO readers, take note here.

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The PH is simply the staff member in charge of the hunting. He's not the one which has or takes any responsibility for the boiling of skulls, or the dip pack process.[/b]
I've always seen the skulls boiled on site, but I don't have the lifetime of experience in RSA


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The outfitter or sometimes the landoower is typically the responsible party for hiring the skinners, PH, cook and all the remaining staff. He buys the salt, and provides the area for the skinning and everything else responsible for this safari company effort.[/b]
So who is on site making sure everything is being taken care of? If the PH doesn't take responsibility, and the outfitter is off site, who can ensure that the skinners are competent? Who is making sure the salt is fresh and that trophies are handled correctly? I have a background in taxidermy, so I'm out there several times a day checking my skins, on my hands and knees making sure everything is salted and drying properly, lips, nose and ears are turned and that everything is copasetic. I'm directing what gets dorsal cut, open skinned or skinned as a "scalp." One a given day when we went for Klipspringer we brought a fresh bag of salt and the equipment to create a salt brine in the field to help the setting of the hair. It can be done better, its just not being done and everyone blames everyone else and denies that its their job. To the hunter, it doesn't really matter who points the finger at who, but if skins consistently come back damaged, RSA isn't going to get repeat clients. Sad thing is even if you do an excellent job yourself, other shipper/dippers and outfitters are ruining the reputation of hunting in the Northern Transvaal. I will reiterate that the problems are magnified in this region more so than anywhere else in the world. If a third world country like Cameroon can get trophies back without damage in 120 degree heat and 95% humidity, it can be done in the dry, mild climate of a South African winter. Again we can eliminate many of the problems if outfitters will pressure dippers to use the USDA approved dry dipping methods. Supply and demand. The East Cape does this and they don't have the damage problems that the Northern Transvaal has.

I've been lucky that I haven't had any damaged skins myself, but I'm very carefully watching what's being done while I'm there and often times giving tips or modifying their processes for my skins to make sure they aren't ruined. I can't say for sure whether the changes stick. Unfortunately most all hunters lack this knowledge or just assume that the hunting operation will handle everything for them without problems.
 

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Your example of a Klipspringer is very interesting. Somebody you were with understands the way the skinning and salting operation works very well. Klipspringer's are the quickest to spoil of all trophies in the world to my knowledge. They simply scare me and I know the difficulty. For a PH/Outfitter that is new to this or lazy the klipsringer is a definate hair slip problem without very deliberate attention.

Outfitters are on site, they are the business owner, the Booking agents are not on site they are pretty much a travel agent for hunters. The PH is simply an employee working for the business in most cases. His job is to take people hunting, not cook, clean, skin, fix the truck etc. In my business the PH's are used this way. They are hired to work as Professional Hunters, and to cater to the needs of the clients they have.

I'm a PH as well, but I do have responsibility for everything, because I own the business too. There are different levels ot responsibility for each employee title, some may have multiple titles/ responsibilities. Some may not, depends upon who you hunt with and how involved that PH is with the business. I have a couple PH's that could be outfitters if they just has a bit more personal motivation. The real situation is that there are a lot of excellent Professional hunters, but very few excellent businessmen. It's the rarest of situations to find a Great PH who also has business skills. Even more rare to find one with these two skills and the knowledge of Whole business from international travel, to trophy care, gun permits, landowner negotiations, game laws, etc. When these traits are shared by multiple people in one business each one tends to think that the other is watching things they are not. That is when things fall through the cracks and problems crop up.

As far as the NP having, as you say a greater amount of badly handled trophies then the rest of the world. I'm sure that is a fact. But just as in politics and the way the news handles what they share with us, there usually is more to the story. It would be factual if this were stated:

"More people drinking coke and pepsi die prematurely then those drinking lemonaide. Why is that? Coke and Pepsi are dangerous, it's killing people, they should fix the recipe."

Well there are more people dieing prematurely from coke and pepsi becuse millions upon millions of people are drinking it so it stands to reason that it's just a natural event that had nothing at all to do with the product. Does this make sense? The Northern Province exported just over 60,000 trophies in 2007 and 2008. When that many trophies are hunted, processed and exported even if it's only 1% of the trophies it's still 600 failed skins. There are not even 600 skins exported in a whole season from Cameroon. So we have to put these things into a context that is realistic and understandable. I have worked much of my life in this business across the whole of Southern Africa. To blame the Northern Province rather then specific operations is much like blaming a race of people for the problems of a few of that race cause. It would be much more accurate to point the finger at those problem operators, shippers, Dip Pack operations, or whom ever was involved.

The real issue is 60,000 trophies. I'm not sure you will ever have 100% of the trophies done perfectly. With that said what percentage is an understandable or acceptance of level of failure? 2%-5%? With only 5% of the trophies having a problem that is 3000 trophies a year. It's why you don't see the amount of failures around the world the way they are from the NP.
 

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I'm not talking about numbers of trophies, that would a disingenuious use of statistics, I'm talking about percentage wise. It sure seems a hunter is more likely than not, going to have damaged trophies when he or she returns. I would like to see the industry address the problems existing in the handling process, especially the wet dip process. Other countries don't seem to have the percentages or types of damage that the NP has. East Cape skins are handled differently, Zimbabwe handles differently and other countries handle differently. Even Cameroon does a great job and they have near 100% humidity and temperatures constantly in excess of 100 degrees F. While its not fair to compare other countries due to differing requirements but the East Cape manages to get hunters their trophies without excessive damage. Its understandable if something is damaged on occasion but the amount and quantity shouldn't be accepted.

Hunters out there, doesn't it turn your stomach to see the photos I posted of damaged skins from just one single shipment? Most of that groups trophies were thrown in the trash, thats after paying to ship it all to the USA.
The entire album of damaged skins

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My point is still that your making it out as a Northern Province issue VS the rest of Africa.

It's not

It's specific Dip Pack Operations, not a region. My business alone has 120-150 trophies exported per season. I've never seen a single one that looks like these, nor have any of my hunters complained about such poor quality. My operation is not unique. All those around me are also fine.

I would more likely suggest that when folks book a hunt and the prices offered are for whatever reason below what you have seen on average, it's time to step back and ask why? Good work and high quality cost money. Where is it the easiest to cut a corner? Not on the game, the hunters know trophy quality most of the time. Not on the food, not on the open bar, not on the vehicles which are needed every day. Hmmmm mayeb the skinners and salt used or the time invested in a camp manager to insure everything is being done properly. Cut some head count and pay a lower cost for first time skinners, cheap rock salt and this is what you get. Bring the trophies to the cheapest startup dip pack process and hope for the best.

Ive never known any camp, lodge or hunting operation I've worked with or for in over 15 years to have that level of damage. Not all are in the Northern Province. I've worked and been a partner in Zimbabwe, Natal, the NP/tranavaal, Drakensburg, and the EC. I've seen thousands of trophies and dozens of hunting camps. Never have I seen this level of catistrophic failure in one shipment.

Look at the dip pack operation. Let me ask would it have been by chance Franz Troskie? If so consider the source and prices you paid! I would not trust him with a block of stainless steel, it would come to me dented and rusty!
 

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Thing is, this isn't an isolated incident, nor is it just one shipper/dipper/outfitter. This is one example from one shipment. Shocking though, isn't it. Cost isn't the issue. This damage is occuring to shipments originating from hunts from several well known and large outfitters. Outfitters will deny that its happening or will give pages and pages of excuses. Its unfortunate that this topic hasn't gotten the attention that it deserves. So many of the hunters that come to the NP are hunting africa for the first time. This is where all the damage is coming from. Again, I will reiterate that this damage isn't coming from other regions. Tanzania for example doesn't even dip the skins, eliminating that problem and the East Cape "dry dips" and the skins are never rewetted. PHASA needs to get together and recognize this problem and crack down as a group. The dipping process can be changed, it just isn't being changed.

Not this shipment, but another shipment with worse damage was dipped and shipped by TransAfrica Taxidermy. This was a different shipment.
 

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What did Rodney suggest to you about the shipment from Trans Africa? I know those guys. What was their stance?

I still say your painting this with a broad brush. You may have some instances of bad stuff but imagine the amount of trophies I see there every year and for over 15 years now! It's overwhelming just how many flawless trophies arrive here when you deal with quality people.

When you don't........ well your rolling the dice eh!
 

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Thats kind of the thing. In most cases, the clients don't have knowledge about this side of it, they just book their hunt with the pretty brochure photos or hunt reports about the animals that were taken (usually filed well before their shipment gets to them). TransAfrica denied any wrong doing until photos of bashed up kudu skulls (missing the mandibles completely) and damaged skins with legs and or ears torn off (from rough handling and being folded there incorrectly). After seeing photos, showing the outfitter the photos, they agreed to get replacement hides for some of the animals, which some of those again showed up damaged. Lots of other stuff went on behind the scenes. The Hunting Report wouldn't publish a hunting report about it and gave some really interesting reasons why it wouldn't be in his best interest to publish that negative report.

Just to be clear, I'm not bitter or bringing this up because it happened to me, but because I've seen it happen to so many other people. Trophies from our Zimbabwe safari came back flawless, skulls were beautiful with no work needed to be displayed. Not a single slip spot on 97 specimens that came out of our group's travels there. I've never had damaged trophies myself but thats because I am involved in the prep of my skins way more than the average person would be. After dinner instead of sitting around the fire, we are out there every night checking and rechecking every skin, every inch of salt, and then we are usually a pain in the ass and dictate which dipper/shipper processes our trophies. One that dry dips only. When the crate arrives, i know that I'm the one who made sure every skin was dry, if I didn't fold it myself I checked the folds when they were made etc.

I just don't know why organizations like PHASA aren't more involved in regulating whats being done. Why wouldn't every PH be angry that this happens? There is a reputation building in the states that its very likely that trophies will come back damaged. Aren't outfitters and PH's concerned that this really is hurting their business?
 

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PHASA is involved but they have so much on their plate with the people running PHASA and the people running the country trying to employ as many Blacks in existing white jobs as possible. Its a huge undertaking to defend the white Outfitters from the soon to be forced affirmitive action to employ a percentage of blacks as PH's.

The struggles in RSA with new gun laws, regulations and the above racial tension issues with how blacks are used by outfitters is a never ending battle. There are some awsome Black guys that would work well as a PH. But they speak minimal english, and have no skills to communicate, hold a conversation, or speak about anything outside of tracking and hunting. There is a huge gap between the international hunters, and the blacks that might work as a PH. The Job of the PH goes well beyond hunting judging and tracking duty. What happens to the clients after dinner? Most of my PH's have a degree and can sit and speak with clients at length about international politics, history, sports, everything you can think of.

Yeah PHASA has concern over the P&D but they have a lot of other issues as well right now.
 

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