Truck Vandalism

[Bishop]

MNHNTR:
It's been a lot of years since I worked any traffic cases. But back then the 2 exceptions that required police reports on private property traffic accidents were "hit and run" and "DUI". Has this been changed in the vehicle code since then?

 

[fpscabs]

Lowell has this one pegged. Call the DFG. You should still do that.
It might help others in the future.

 

[LeeChul]

Yeah, you're right. I'll work on it. Maybe som pics wouldn't hurt. I could go back up there and see if anything happens. Well see. Thanks

 

[ozstriker22]

As an insurance agent... I'd say buy better insurance from me. If you want a better company, send me a PM... (ha ha)

Truth is this: Minor accident (pd only, no bi) you're lucky to get a police report, they've got bigger fish to fry. Hit and run with no injuries is bad, but c'mon, it's LAPD, there's a reason insurance is so expensive in LA!!!

If you have collision coverage WITH the uninsured motorist COLLISION WAIVER, and names and addresses of the witnesses who have the license plates of the vehicle, then pay your deductible and if your company is good, they'll contact the witnesses and get your deductible back whether she has insurance or not. If you've got a company that's not so good, they'll tell you to get a police report (LOL)

Even so, the California insurance commisioner's office has very sticky rules on their hit and run claims issues, so your company's hands may be tied. But even though you might get stuck with your deductible, at least it's not your fault and your company shouldn't raise your rates!

Jesse Ostler, Self Promoting AAA Agent - Always selling it

 

[songdog]

"...bigger fish to fry"... yeah, like the white guy driving the 2001 Honda on his way to church with the family with tags expired last month.

Most (and yes, I use that term intentionally meaning more than 50%) LAPD officers have the attitude of it being easier and safer to write traffic tickets to the above white guy in the Honda than to chase the gang banger down Roscoe Blvd. after a shot has been fired from their vehicle. Call it lazy, call it preserving their own skin, call it whatever you want but that's the way it goes here.

A friend who is a P2 at Devonshire had a gang banger blow a light on Sepulveda the other day and flee (in the vehicle) when my friend and his partner started the pursuit. It was 80+mph down Sepulveda when they turned into a residential neighborhood and the passenger bailed and ran inside the house with a bag (theoretically of drugs to stash/hide). The cops wrote the driver up for running a light and speeding but wouldn't pursue the passenger into the house (nor call for backup to do so) because they didn't want the risk or the paperwork.

This is based on way more than my personal experience (and no I wasn't the guy pulled over on his way to church). I know at least 25 P3 or lower LAPD - Foothill, Devonshire, Van Nyus, N Hollywood cops. I personally know D Gates and B Vernon from the old days. I know 4 Lt. IIs and several other folks with the Valencia Sherrif. So this isn't just a one data point opinion.

I had a similar incident to Hogskin. Parked car at a trailer park out the 126 that was backed into by a truck towing a travel trailer. You could see the tire tracks, the remnants of the trailer's light lense was broken on the ground and there was only one parking spot that the trailer could have been in. When I saw the damage to the car in the morning, I went to the trailer park office and asked for the contact info for the people in spot C-3 that had left earlier that morning (when they backed into my car). They said that they couldn't give that out, only to the police. I called and a Hyw patrol showed up about 2 hours later. Kind of kicked the dust, acted put out to be there and, like Hogskin, wouldn't take a report. He also wouldn't go to the office and get the name and pretty much just said "that's why you have insurance". Same thing...$500 out of my pocket for a lazy cop.

All this to say, I have the uttmost respect for an honest hardworking cop. However, don't make the mistake of thinking that there are "only a few bad apples". We've done it to ourselves with hiring qoutas for the LAPD and the over correction for our little incident with Mr. King about 10 years ago.

 

[Hogskin]

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We've done it to ourselves with hiring qoutas for the LAPD and the over correction for our little incident with Mr. King about 10 years ago.[/b]

You got that right. My friends who served under Gates were proud to wear the badge. When Willie the Whale came in, morale dropped and I don't think it's recovered. I used to hang around with Kroeker's son, I had nothing but respect for the LAPD, but there's little of that respect left. They have a very difficult job, but it's hard to be respectful when all your interactions with them are unpleasant. My

 

[F350]

Okay,
here's my

I have a background in Law enforcement and Mnhntr's right A G A I N ! ! ! I now work for a large insurance company and I know that most large companies have excellent investigators. There's an element of insurance called
"Subrogation". The investigators will make contact with the other parties and subrogate the claim to recover their losses.

Basically, If pursued correctly, She'll pay and you won't.
Depends on who you're insured with too though.

"Nuff Said"

 

[metalkingdom]

You guys are trippin. Have you ever been to jail for NOTHING? I have. For no other reason other than I look like (to a geek with a badge) a bad person. This guy made up three different excuses why he pulled me over, and none of them were true. Prior to being pulled over, this guy slowed down TWICE to get a good look at me. Granted, this was in north Florida, the last haven for the true redneck. Throughout my entire adult life, I have countlessly been watched, followed, and pulled over by police just because I'm not white. The long hair doesn't help, but it happened often while I was in the Navy. I'm telling you right now, the cops aren't pulling over the white guy in the Honda on the way to church. They are pulling over the brown skinned guy on his way to the helicopter squadron, or to college, or coming back from fishing Irvine Lake, or on his way back from dropping his grandma off at the airport. It happens a lot, and it sucks to be terrified of the police. Most of you guys don't know what that feels like...

I believe that most cops, aside from ex-military, have psychological needs that stem from deep emotional scars and/or an inferiority complex. Cops should be held to the same high mental standards as those serving in military special forces. It makes me uneasy thinking about the wimpy geeks who were bullied in 5th grade growing up and having complete and deadly authority over everyday citizens. The many fatal cop/not-so-bad guy incidents only fortify my beliefs.

Up until about a year and a half ago, I was the right hand man for one of the most famous rappers in the world. His entire 20 man security team was made up of off duty police, some being ex-military, some coming from the civilian world. Over the course of nearly 4 years, I got to know each one of them fairly well. There was a distinct difference in personality from the ex-military guys and the civi-reared guys. The ex-military guys were ALWAYS calm, collective, and rational. The other guys were completely on the edge, even going on at length to show me how they deal with guys who "piss them off". I even had one guy, after an earlier high speed chase, tell and demonstrate to me how he wished he could legally shoot someone in the face. SCARY.

Songdog - you are the man, and I totally respect your wisdom, but your comment implies that white people don't commit crime. Go to El Cajon in San Diego County, or the rural areas of Pennsylvania. You can find the worst of the worst there. I also find it hard to believe that your cop buddies would only write someone a speeding ticket if there was a pursuit involved.

I can't imagine a world without them, and I know that we need 'em, but personally I say "F**K THA POLICE!"

 

[F350]

WHOA!!!
And we're trippin'?
You're right...Most cops wouldn't write a speeding ticket to someone who runs from the Police. It stands to reason that if you're running from the Police, you have something to hide or...That you're a coward and have no regard for public safety and/or human life. On that note, running from the police moves the situation from an infraction to a Felony in most cases. Speeding ticket? ummm....NO ! Not now!

Yes there are "Bad Cops" out there just like bad everything else.
But hey man, just as you feel it's wrong to stereotype citizens, who are you to "Stereotype" others simply because of their job or what they represent? I don't know what you do for a living now but,... Do you know what it's like to have to put on a Kevlar vest for 8 to 12 hours a day, in a wool shirt, and in the sun just because some idiot doesn't want to be adult enough to take responsibility for their actions?

Man!!! metalkingdom it must be exhausting to be you!

I'm gonna stop now because this is starting to turn

Sorry Guys!

 

[sdbowyer]

Wow, my in-laws who never get pulled over by the police for no reason will sure be suprised to find out that they're white. I also know white guys that have bad attitudes that DO constantly manage to get in trouble that just can't figure out why.

 

[UPER]

Bottom line as mentioned earlier in this thread, call and report it to the DFG, if you can maintain your composure and be calm confront who you think it is and get as much info as you can such as name and address "WITHOUT WEAPONS"! As for all military people being calm cool and collected we are a cross cut of society, we got idiots also, some real dandies!!!!

 

[F350]

Man!!!

This guy "metalkingdom" already has 150 posts in JHO and has managed not to get banned?

DANG!!!

I have no respect for people who scapegoat.

 

[grtwythunter]

Now that this thread is WAY off the original topic and starting to get ugly everybody needs to lighten up a bit.

Scott

 

[fpscabs]

I got a good idea. Next time, just set up a trail camera to watch the car...that could be very helpful in contacting the DFG or Police

 

[Hogskin]

Originally posted by UPER@Mar 11 2004, 03:50 PM
As for all military people being calm cool and collected we are a cross cut of society, we got idiots also, some real dandies!!!!

Just like JHO!

 

[MNHNTR]

Oh look! I kinda have long hair and Im Mexican! OOps but I must be a turncoat because I'm a P I G ! (Picture edited slightly so as not to offend)

(Notice slightly protruding belly-probably from donuts)

 

[LeeChul]

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  Do you know what it's like to have to put on a Kevlar vest for 8 to 12 hours a day, in a wool shirt, and in the sun just because some idiot doesn't want to be adult enough to take responsibility for their actions?[/b]

at least they get to where cool shades right?

Add to that a Kevlar helmet, load bearing equipment, and a 60 lb ruck sack, and consider what a soldier already in full battle rattle in temperatures much higher, and who are not afforded the luxury of air conditioned, cars goes through every day in Iraq, Korea, Afganistan... And the adults not willing to be adult enough to take resposibility for their actions have nuclear weapons that they don't mind launching at you at any moment for trying to liberate their country

; that is a tough job! The cops, they don't have it so bad, everyone thinks they have it bad until they get hit with something worse.!!
-My best reguards and wishes for a safe and soon return home to all the soldiers abroad.

Any way you look at it the corrupted cops all around the U.S. are hazard to our safety, the safty of our familes and, d*m*t, they are wasting money we could spend opening new hunting grounds with better game management...

Cheers

 

[MNHNTR]

Oh Lee, since you are in the Army you must be right about the PO-lices! I always wondered about the level of PO- LIce corruption and now I know.......thank you Metal and Song dog too! Oh look...fine upstanding people conducting business and purchasing something......hmmm wonder what ?

 

[LeeChul]

Don't get me wrong MNHNTR, I'm not saying all cops are corrupted, but you must admit there is a fare # of them.

And what is "Oh Lee, since you are in the Army you must be right about the PO-lices!" supposed to mean?

 

[MNHNTR]

Lee ...I'm being a smart*ss ! Ask me about my job sometime.......