It's obvious some of you guys are doing really well in the "burbs". Two years ago in my previous job, I got to know a guy (management) who's a non-hunter and lives in the burbs of Syracuse, N.Y. RThere's a large wooded hill covering about 50 acres I suppose, and his home (one of many in the tract) butts up against the hillside. He always runs feeders for the squirrels and birds. Damned if he doesn't pick up sheds too when the snow melts off some--in the yard around the feeder. Well, he was telling me about a shed he picked up in his yard about 3 years ago. Saw the buck on a few occasions too--a monster by all accounts. Finally one day he brought in the shed to show me and let me take it home to measure and show my wife. It was a beautiful 5 point side, heavy and no chews. It scored 75" and I'm still jealous over it. That guy walks out in his yard and grabs a 75" side (what would the deer score...165-170" if symetrical and with a 15-20" spread?). I walk probably over a hundred miles every spring and my biggest ones all top out around 60-65". I found a way on to that hill and check it every spring and it's torn up but I come up empty....I'll keep trying. He never saw the deer again after that winter of course.