Unguided Hog Hunts: What's an appropriate price?

[sammyguy193]

The Spot:

• 4hrs North of Los Angeles, 40mins south of King City
• 110 acres, prime habitat
• Abutts an adjacent 4,000 acre hunting property planted with barley
• food plots and year round water holes scattered around property
• >100 Hogs taken from neighboring property last year
• Access road traverses entire property (SUV/Truck/4x4)

You get:

• Access from Friday morning through Sunday evening
• Tent/RV/Camper/TeePee Camping on gravel lot w/fire pit
• Wifi Internet Access
• PortaPotty

***Price is PER PERSON***

 

[pathfyndr]

is this a hypothetical synerio or actual spot opening up soon? never hunted a hog and we've been looking at maps or places where we might get lucky but everyone says ambiguous statements where to go or its a private ranch. drove last week 3 hrs to a area someone told us we would spot some hogs to only be chased off site but ranch hand and chevron oil super or foreman of those hills, we saw no gates, signs or any sign it was private property, flippen sucks spending that much in gas and time to just get an outcome like that.

 

[CaliDuckPro]

Considering it is only 110 acres.... wouldn't pay much. Chance seems pretty limited.

 

[Hikingwithguns]

I wouldn't pay anything for such a small area. Thats ~1/6 of a square mile...

Edit: I have hunted both 40 acre and 200 acre ranches. 110 acres is tiny. If you are going to have to pay, try to only pay if you harvest an animal.

 

[flingem71]

I have spent some time on a 120 acre piece. Its bigger than u think. If it has water you may get lucky when the pressures hot from the joneses place. Ask for a tour before u pay. Look for sign. If its larry hamilton.... don't do anything. That being said, is this a lease....a hunt? I would hunt it but only for a small price...if I saw fresh sign. I would also ask to only pay a trespass fee if I had no opportunity while there. I've paid for hunts in hopes to harvest but its the hunt I value most. I can get food at save mart. An all day hunt on a piece of land where u see other wild life is of much more value. I would pay a $50 to hunt it and $350+ for a harvest. I would look at it as a camping trip more than a hunt.

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[lewdogg21]

That's an awfully small parcel and even if the adjacent property has hogs on 4k acres they may never get within a 1/4 of you. I think this is a pay only if you kill place. Sounds like a camping trip to me but just my $.02. Let us know what happens.

 

[Caninelaw]

Maybe to get a better idea of what 110 acres is to you look at a map divided into sections (640 acres). One section is equal to one square mile. In one square mile, there are 640 acres, therefore in one quarter of a section of land, there are 160 acres (if square it would be 1/4 mile on each side). So, this might give you an idea of how big it is. Is there access to the adjacent 4,000 acres? If not, and you're stuck on the 110 acres I'd go along with what flingem71 said. A small trespass fee and then, if you harvest a fee for that.
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[HOGHUNTER714]

Tell me this is NOT a Larry Hamilton property? If it's not, 110 is very small for hunting pigs. If you're huntin with a bow, might be a better set-up than a rifle. Hunting 110 with a rifle is just a little to small (IMO). Unless like already mentioned it has a water source and you can ambush a hog coming to water.

 

[Deleted member 33033]

If the neighboring property is fenced, it doesn't matter how many hogs are taken there annually, does it? This sounds like a poor opportunity given the size.

 

[jackrabbit]

With only 110 acres, if there were hunters there every weekend (or even more on weekdays) the pigs would learn very quickly to get the hell out of there. Of course, if the property had the only water around the area, and there was thick brush to hide in, I suppose the pigs could keep coming back.

Post some GPS coordinates so folks can see it on google earth and then give their educated opinions. Minimal trespass fee, and then a kill fee would certainly interest me if I had an idea of the terrain and cover.

 

[spectr17]

This IS NOT a Larry Hamilton scam.

 

[Caninelaw]

I might add to my original post at 110 acres it should only be one hunter, or at max, one hunting party (2 hunters together) at any one time and probably only once a week or even once every two weeks or so.

 

[BigAssWhiteBoy]

In one square mile, there are 640 acres, therefore in one quarter of a section of land, there are 160 acres (if square it would be 1/4 mile on each side)..

1/4 mile is only about 450 yards. Just saying.

 

[sammyguy193]

Hey!

Thanks for all the replies! The reason for this post is that I'm doing some market research. Rich Mellott and I are looking to purchase some hunting property together and run it as a small hunting retreat for ourselves, our friends, and friends of friends. We think we've found our spot, but we're still negotiating price, otherwise I'd give y'all the address, or heck, i'd let you shoot some varmints for free if you wanted to come out and give me your opinion as an experienced hunter.

1. No, this is NOT a Larry Hamilton scam.
2. Adjacent 4k property is NOT fenced
3. This is exclusive access
4. there would be 1-2 hunting parties up there per month
5. Land improvements include 4 water holes and 4acres of scattered food plots for hogs, deer, and dove.
6. Other game spp include deer, dove, quail, turkey, and varmints of all shapes and sizes. There's also tule elk, but GL getting a tag... yup... E.L.K.
7. Yes, 110 acres is small for a hunting area, but the terrain is gently rolling, easy hiking/walking.
8. Lot measures apprx 3800x1400ft
8. Rifle and archery allowed. The 6 sq mi valley has a population of 40, and all the homes are near-ish the main road and all the property lots travel away from the road.
9. Hogs are already crawling over the property. And I'm not just saying that to be a salesperson. See the 2nd youtube vid for the hog highway (NOT A MAN MADE TRAIL)

I like the idea of a small tresspass/land use fee and a kill fee if successful. What would be an appropriate price for a kill fee, and how much would you pay for use of the land for a weekend? How about for a week?



Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UtWkAnkizk

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Video 2:***Hog highway*** there was fresh sign all over this place.

[video=youtube;NxGzp9q0SS8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxGzp9q0SS8[/video]

 

[flingem71]

I do have a simular comparable place I go. I pay $50 per night and a harvest fee of $350 with a one night minimum. Its $400-450 however you slice it. That's unguided and on the honor system for harvest. I might add as far as the honor system goes.... all the users/hunters (8) know each other.
I am an archery hunter and would like to put my name in the hat for first hunt or close to it.
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[steve45]

I have no doubt the property has hogs, but once you start hunting them actively can a small property hold the hogs? the answer can be yes or no. The property has to have something the pigs need or want. ex, water, cover, barley,110 acres can be real good depending on these type of factors. It depends on management,

 

[Deleted member 33033]

Without a fence the property will be empty within a month. With a fence the property will be empty within a quarter. Just don't see it. Too small a property and hogs are too damn smart.

 

[Hikingwithguns]

I have no doubt the property has hogs, but once you start hunting them actively can a small property hold the hogs? the answer can be yes or no. The property has to have something the pigs need or want. ex, water, cover, barley,110 acres can be real good depending on these type of factors. It depends on management,

Yeah, all small properties that I have hunted have the hogs wise up pretty fast once a couple of them get shot. I took my first wild pig on a private ranch about ~200 acres and subsequent visits I have only seen deer and heard pigs after shooting hours. I suspect this is because several more pigs were shot and while there is water, cover, food and a good wallow on the property, adjacent properties also offer the same things.

I would just have you and your buddy hunt the place for a while, see how the pigs, deer, etc respond and go from there before having other hunters. Sounds like a cool property to own. And don't forget about fishing too, a lot of stock ponds can offer good bass, bluegill, and catfish. I don't think Iv'e caught a bass under 20 inches at that ranch ig-laughing:

 

[Kentuck]

Regardless, I would like to own a spot like that.

 

[Richmellott]

Well, this property has been producing hogs for years, on a bi-monthly basis (there is currently active and productive hunting going on; met a couple of his friends who had taken one two weeks before, and were hunting for another while I was visiting, (and I dropped in, so it wasn't a set-up). While hunting is going on, the ground isn't really going to give up too much due to hunter pressure, because it is also chock full of food, cover, and the property above it is also hunted. They come through on their way to and from water, food, and bedding grounds. It isn't just a transportation corridor, though, because I've seen rooting under oak trees, in grass meadows, and rubs on trees. There is some bedding going on, but with the addition of year-round water, some food plots, and managed access by limiting numbers of hunters, it should be productive for a long time. I'm also thinking about making it alternative weekends for archery and rifle, so as to keep pressure fluctuating on the wildlife, in terms of noise, and for neighborhood goodwill. The hills separate it into several distinct areas, with little cross-traffic, and the Hog Chi Minh trail goes down the backbone and major canyon. It's a sweet set-up, and it isn't going to need much improvement to be ready to hunt, so we're hopeful.
We'll let you know if it goes through, and we thank Jesse for allowing us to do this polling/market research. Keep your powder dry!