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I am against big horn canyon ranch since it is a bait & kill rather than a true hunt. they take you (or tell you where) to a spot that they know the pigs feed at the trough. you can go pet the animals there -- they are all used to humans. nothing like a true hunt in the wild.
 

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I "hunted" Big Horn when I was 19...Not much of a "hunt", but I did fill my freezer full of pork. I wouldnt go to BH again, but I am not gonna fault someone for hitin the ranch. It was an "experience" to say the least....Might be a different story with a bow, I don't know. I don't bow hunt.....
 

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Big Horn Canyon Ranch can be as easy or as difficult as you want to make it.
Make no mistake, we are lucky to have them in Southern California.
Ranches like this are everywhere in Texas and few and far between in California.
Don't knock it, support them, they are part of the hunting culture.
 

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I am not going to defend his shooting or how the ranch hunts but I will say this.

Maybe it is his first hunt and he has never taken an animal before.

Could have a touch of buck fever or in this case hog fever.

Every shooter has a good day and a bad day.

There are all kinds of variables that come into play.

This could be a learning experience for him. Every time we hunt we gain knowledge and experience.

Why not leave it here as a learning experience for others who are just getting into our sport.

For example he could have moved to a closer location to shoot from.

He could have used something to steady his aim better.

Maybe more time at the range would help.

There have already been many comments that would help a new hunter learn from his mistakes.

Even those of us who have time and experience in the field make mistakes and bad shots form time to time no one is perfect.

If you think you are then a trip to the Dove fields is in order that always humbles me.

Of course we just don't post it for the world to see.
 

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We have seen those Texas videos hammering herds of hogs with semi-auto weapons and then there is just a pile of dead hogs. While I am sure many of the hogs are cooked and consumed................many more are probably just discarded and dumped somewhere in a corner of the ranch. Depredation, cull or hog population control or whatever you want to call it............the fact is that shooting one hog at a ranch like Big Horn is more consumable than blasting dozens of hogs at a Texas depredation, cull, hog control hunt. We will always have detractors on dead, bleeding animals after a successful hunt being shown on the internet as "anti-hunting" fodder. I myself just find it common sense that after shooting an animal dead.....that there will be bleeding and blood pools. The anti's will always be jumping up and down no matter what............as for the fence sitters.......those who are neutral............well, I guess they have never been to the slaughterhouse. Oh well............we love this sport and it is definitely bloody. Bullet holes leak a lot of blood.
'Nuff said
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I am not going to defend his shooting or how the ranch hunts but I will say this.

Maybe it is his first hunt and he has never taken an animal before.

Could have a touch of buck fever or in this case hog fever.

Every shooter has a good day and a bad day.

There are all kinds of variables that come into play.

This could be a learning experience for him. Every time we hunt we gain knowledge and experience.

Why not leave it here as a learning experience for others who are just getting into our sport.

For example he could have moved to a closer location to shoot from.

He could have used something to steady his aim better.

Maybe more time at the range would help.

There have already been many comments that would help a new hunter learn from his mistakes.

Even those of us who have time and experience in the field make mistakes and bad shots form time to time no one is perfect.

If you think you are then a trip to the Dove fields is in order that always humbles me.

Of course we just don't post it for the world to see.


IMO..Probably the best post so far. Very True...
 

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Well Edwin how do you feel. He looked a little dazed and confused to me. I don't think it was, what he thought it was going to be like. And the unsupporative lady in the background probably did'nt help much. I hope he had a knife with him, I did'nt see one.:smiley_doh:
 

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I was planning on my doing my first hog hunt at the big horn ranch, but dont want to just shoot a barnyard pig. Their website says they have "russian boars" too, hopefully they are a little harder to hunt, or maybe some of their exotics are tricky? I want a bit more challenge than whats in the video.
 

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Give it a try DirtyDave!
Call the boys at Big Horn Canyon Ranch and tell them you want to hunt wild boars.
They have ranch hogs, feral hogs, and russian/razor back boars.
I can tell you the boars are tough to find and they are not out in the open.
Those boars find the steepest, hardest accessible canyons they can find on the ranch.
When I go there I use an 8mm Mauser with Iron Sights.
I have had them drop, run away, and charge when hit.
I can tell you, I have spent more other places to not have fun and not go home with anything.
Keep this in mind; it is a ranch, the animals have been placed there, it will be as challenging as you make it.
You can sit high on a ridge at sun up and take a long distance shot with a scoped rifle, or you can hit the canyons with a bow or short range rifle.
 

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You know, I almost shedded a tear for the pig that was still alive :(.
 

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Thanks EPT, I think I will give it a try. I will be using a 12ga wiith slugs, so I am more of a spot-n-stalk kinda guy. I figured there had to be some "real" wild hogs that would be more of a challenge.
 

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Not everyone has a Dad or uncle or mentor to show them how to do it right... I give the guy props for going out and doing it. Maybe someone will see this and give him some pointers. The Sad pig hanging around was a sad fact of hunting that is not often seen, take it or leave it. That dazed walk around after the shot would make me nervous. I hope he was just dealing with a little sadness after the shot.
 

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i have hunted some nasty texas ranches. tree stands overlooking corn flingers. on these particular ranches, the foilage is think and absolutely un-huntable. you cannot penetrate the plantlife. bringing the pigs out with corn appears to be the only option. it wasnt easy. we still only had a 30% success rate.

i havent seen the above video. my work computer filtered it out.
 

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WOW! Im sorry but this should not be on this site. That was not hunting it was a slaughter video. All the crap we hunters have to put up with,with the antis and peta and this gets posted. I have have seen alot of debates on whats right and whats wrong on this site over the past few years between guys and Jesse always steps in pulls posts and warns or bans members. Jesse I dont know what you were thinking posting this but it makes us all look bad as hunters. I could care less if a guy wants to hunt that type of ranch to each is own its the video I have a problem with.
 

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I guess that video is already in circulation in the internet prior to being put here at JHO. So.........any dilemma for preserving our hunter's public reputation is moot.
'Nuff said
larrysogla
 

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nuff said?

i finally checked out the video. i shouldnt have. that was absolutely lame in every aspect. the man sucked at shooting. the lady sucked with a video camera. was she resting it on his head? wtf? the pig looked domestic, and the second pig didnt even run away.
i have shot a captured hog before. lady friend trapped and raised 4 of them. we put them in a dog kennel, and put a bullet in between their eyes while they were eating apples. the pork was delicious.

how far of a shot do you think this pig was? the sound of the screaming pig was pretty clear. less than 100 yards? with a rifle, i consider that shot a chip shot. this is a black eye for hunters.
 

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What difference does it make that it has already hit the net? Just because its on the net doesnt mean it needs to be on this site.
 

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Every time that I see the posts by people that state this or that gives hunters a bad name I just shake my head.

First off I have had the luxury of seeing quite a few shots made and they are not always perfect. That is the reality of hunting things happen.

For those of you that are always one shot one kill. I have a hard time believing this.

As for the calls to remove this or any other video from the site due to damage to hunters.

Invest some time into reading the posts here and you will see more damage done to hunters here then the antis could ever dream of.

These posts don't go away. Google idiot hunters or something similar and you will see what I mean.

I never knew that hunting belonged to the elite until I started reading around here.

The elitist attitude runs rampant.

I see all kinds of posts about idiots, stupid people, unethical hunters, morons, etc. etc.

I just don't run into these types of hunters for the most part.

I think the antis are much more accepting of other antis then hunters are of other hunters around here.

Spend some time behind a shotgun hunting birds and all of the one shot one kill wonders become pretty quite and humbled.

Is the shot perfect? No.

But what I wouldn't give to be there when some of the elite make an imperfect shot.

There are many variables that come into play with every shot.

If you like your sport it just might a good idea to be more accepting of others and their skill levels.

I have never seen anybody start anything as an expert. It takes trail and error to get there.

We need members for our dying sport.

If we don't get them you will have all the time you ever wanted to debate bad shots sitting on your couch watching old hunting videos from the days when hunting was legal.

Maybe someday all hunters will be worthy of your support for the sport and not just the perfect scenarios you always see on T.V.
 

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I dont see where anyone said they never make a bad shot? I do bird hunt and I do make bad shots but i dont video tape it and post it on web sites. Your entitled to your opinion and so am I. As far as the reading on this site goes your right there is way to much bickering and arguing and not enough sharing of useful info like in the years past which is why I dont post much on here anymore.
 
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