sancho

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there is some great footage of some fantastic hunts in exotic, and non exotic places. videos that make me want to start a separate savings account to save and save. videos that make me immediately google the outfitter or ranch to suss it out. videos that inspire me.

this isnt one of them.
 
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What was the end result of Edwin's hunt? Anyone? Yep, a dead animal. As hunters, we all end at the same stop...standing over a dead animal. We need to be thankful that, for now, we are still able to do this legally.

I, for one would never sign up at the ranch and hunt there, but I certainly wouldn't slight Edwin and his mom for hunting there...in the truest sense of the phrase, to each his own.

Just like with coursing dogs for coyotes, hunting under a feeder or behind a high fence, baiting for bears, fox hunting with hounds, etc. It may not be everyone's idea of hunting, but the last page always reads the same.

For many of us here, the journey, the stalk, being in the wild, are the bigger parts of the hunt, and the reason we come back. Maybe Edwin was on his first hunt. The dazed and confused look, and walking off without a stitch of gear certainly tells me he didn't have much of clue, but in the end he killed an animal, just like most of here.

You know what does the most damage to the hunting community? It's other hunters bagging on newbies, poor shots, types of hunting, elitist attitudes, one type or species of hunting over the other, and generally fragmenting our sport.

Let's keep the brotherhood alive and support anyone that gets involved, whether we approve of the way they went about it or not.

Now, if we want to start ripping on the camera woman...I'm in!
 

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I'll be honest, on my first shot opportunity I missed the first two shots and dropped the hog like a load of bricks on the third. So I can't really knock this guy for his shooting (granted you shouldn't take a shot that can't kill cleanly). But for me personally...this isn't hunting. Put in the time, put in the miles, and get one on public land before you pony up for some live target practice.
 

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I've spent alot more money to hunt places were I damn near had a stroke trying to get onto an animal and walked away with aching legs, bruised ego and little else.

No one in my family hunts and I didn't start until I was 32. I never had the long hunting tradition to fall back on. I learned on my own and by the goodness of hunters that were willing to share their experiences with me.

I made some mistakes along the way, made some horrible shots and lost some animals. Those things still haunt me in the wee hours, sometimes. And you know, ultimately, it made me a better hunter, taught me my limitations and my strengths.

I hunt public lands, government lands and pay to play places. What they all have in common is that I'm out there hunting, and there's a chance I may get an animal.

What I see in this video is a guy that wants to hunt, is kinda unsure on what its all about and seems a bit stunned when its all over.

I see a guy that wants to hunt and can only find his mom to give him support and the only place he knows to go is this ranch. Its obvious he doesn't know what its about

I see a guy that desperately needs a mentor and those are hard to find.

I've never been to that ranch. I know where its at and what its about. It's not my first choice, but its one of them. I like the fact that ranch is there. I not getting any younger and some of the hunts are starting to hurt, alot. And quite frankly, a Dall sheep looks good on the wall whether it came from Texas or SOCAL or where ever. When the times comes to slow down, be it age, time or money, I'll hunt that ranch and be happy to able to do it.

So give Edwin and his mom a break. If you meet the guy, offer to take him out, show him so tricks, some property and get him hooked. He's obviously trying.
 

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Alright, you all know I am not a big fan of the high fenced ranches. However, ltdann you make a damn good point and I have to give you credit for it. I think you made the right observation about this guy.
 

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ltdann,
You made a very good point and it is well said. We all have to start out somewhere. I started hunting as an early teenager in my father's saltpond. We produce salt by evaporating seawater in a 1 hectare(2.4 acre) pond with a bed of clay tiles. The seawater is crystal clear and I would walk around the dried mud dike around the saltpond......shooting our bolt action .22 rifle at the Tilapia fish while they are stationary in the crystal clear water. It is literally "shooting at the fish in a barrel". However.............I enjoyed it immensely and loved it............and I got hooked into hunting that way......."shooting fish in a barrel". So here I am hooked for life on hunting............hogs and deer. I would not detract anything from a guy starting out at Big Horn Canyon shooting hogs in a closed fence scenario.............I could have been that guy if I was starting out now...........instead of shooting at "fish in a barrel" some 45 years ago.
'Nuff said
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