I hate to say it, but they could raise their NR tag fees to $5,000 for bull elk and still sell all the tags they issue. It's too bad that AZ and other states throw rocks at the likes of USO and then jump into the pay for play game themselves. It's always the same with government. If they see an individual or company making too much money, they figure out a way to take it away and keep it for themselves. I have never liked USO, their ideology or services but the AZ Game & Fish Commission is just taking their place.
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Lordsburg, yep, i have heard that some Rez's are getting those kind of dollars.
Every rez i have been on does a better job of managing their rescources ( game, forests).
They run it like a business and for the betterment of their land. Most states run their rescources like a beaurocracy always being swayed by the vocal minority.
I dont want to spend that kind of money that it takes to hunt a Rez, but somewhere in the future i may.
Every rez i have been on does a better job of managing their rescources ( game, forests).
They run it like a business and for the betterment of their land. Most states run their rescources like a beaurocracy always being swayed by the vocal minority.
I dont want to spend that kind of money that it takes to hunt a Rez, but somewhere in the future i may.
The last time I checked the San Carlos Apache Rez got $40,000 for a trophy elk but at one time the hunt fee was $10K and the trophy fee depended on the size of the elk so a hunter could've paid an addition fee of $40K.
http://www.sancarlosrecreationandwildlife....itetail%20Hunts
They actually have some decent prices on some of their hunts. Their bear hunts are second to none for both size and numbers. $700 might seem like a lot, but it's cheaper than Cananda or Alaska when you figure in airfare and outfitter.
$300 for a cow hunt is pretty reasonable too. I sometimes buy a tag just for a backup hunt in case I don't draw a tag.
They actually have some decent prices on some of their hunts. Their bear hunts are second to none for both size and numbers. $700 might seem like a lot, but it's cheaper than Cananda or Alaska when you figure in airfare and outfitter.
$300 for a cow hunt is pretty reasonable too. I sometimes buy a tag just for a backup hunt in case I don't draw a tag.
I have hunted the Ute cow elk hunt a couple of times as a back up hunt. Now that I live near the Mescalero Rez I have pondered buying a bull tag from them sometime. Most likely wont since my elk hunting is real good and doubt if i ever have the time.
I will continue to apply in AZ even if the tag goes to 1800. I wont be happy about paying it, but i will only apply in the top units.
I will continue to apply in AZ even if the tag goes to 1800. I wont be happy about paying it, but i will only apply in the top units.
Big Game hunting in general is coming down to a matter of the have's and have not.
The average guy will eventually get priced out of that out of state dream hunt.
It's hard enough here in California, buying a home, raising a family and having a
little fun now and then.
When I was younger and stationed in Alaska I had the good fortune of becoming a resident for a short period of time. I got to hunt black bear, mountain goat, dall sheep, brown bear, blacktail deer, caribou and moose for a ridiculously low price.
I'd have to sell my house in order to be able to afford all those hunts again.
A buddy of mine just got back from Wyoming. He and 4 other guys spent 3800.00 each on a guided elk hunt near Buffalo for 5 days and none of them ever got a shot off at anything.
By the way. As soon as I find out the outfitter's name I'm gonna post up on this guy right after I hear the full story.
The average guy will eventually get priced out of that out of state dream hunt.
It's hard enough here in California, buying a home, raising a family and having a
little fun now and then.
When I was younger and stationed in Alaska I had the good fortune of becoming a resident for a short period of time. I got to hunt black bear, mountain goat, dall sheep, brown bear, blacktail deer, caribou and moose for a ridiculously low price.
I'd have to sell my house in order to be able to afford all those hunts again.
A buddy of mine just got back from Wyoming. He and 4 other guys spent 3800.00 each on a guided elk hunt near Buffalo for 5 days and none of them ever got a shot off at anything.
By the way. As soon as I find out the outfitter's name I'm gonna post up on this guy right after I hear the full story.
Easy now! Hunting season isn't over with and you're getting all fired up!
As Ed said, wait and see where it goes....Take your time and write a note to AZ DF&G, or go to one of their meetings.....Don't get all worked up over something that hasn't happened!
As Ed said, wait and see where it goes....Take your time and write a note to AZ DF&G, or go to one of their meetings.....Don't get all worked up over something that hasn't happened!
these are just proposals so far. and the expensive ones are only for a very few units. all units in az have awesome elk in them. just no one talks about them. the uso wanted to null the nr 10%cap on premium hunts. if that would of stayed law the prices for nr's woulda skyrocketed! and costs keep going up for the g&f. also i must say i find it somewhat ironic that alot of californians are complaining of paying to much. that maybe an unrealistic stereo type but when i hear what so and so sold his house for and moved here...
These fees are just a way of taxing non-residents to pay for state programs. The state gets the money, but the Residents dont feel the pain. It's like the transient occupancy taxes you pay at hotels. The state politicians get the money to spend it on their programs without raising local taxes and ticking off the people voting in their state. I dont like it anymore then u- guys, But I'd plan on it getting worse as people demand free programs from the state more and more.
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Game and fish are the property of the state and its residents. So, why shouldn't they charge high fees for non-resident hunters? It isn't discrimination or an unfair practice. It's simply charging a premium to those hunters who only add a small contribution to the economy during a specific time of year.
Clearly, the collective contribution from out of state hunters is an enormous one to a local economy. However, is it anywhere close to the total economic contribution of a resident hunter who lives there year-round? I doubt it.
To me, it's a matter of these States saying to NR hunters, "You want us to share our game. Fine, you'll pay a premium for it."
I know it's not that simple, but put yourself in their shoes. They have some of the best elk hunting available, and there is huge pressure from the outfitting industry to allow X % of tags to go to non-residents, who often pay high prices to increase their chance of success by going with a "local guide." The other 75% of the tags go to residents hunters who rarely hire a guide, and would surely argue for more animals to hunt (say for instance, 25% more that are already going to NR hunters).
I am not trying to be a 'Richard Cranium' about this, but am curious if I am the only one who thinks this way?
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Ummmm.....not trying to start anything here, but most of the posters should research how California treats Nonresidents.
First, to apply for a tag you have to buy a hunting license and Nonresidents cant even apply for an Elk or Antelope Tag (Residents Only). They limit the NonResident to "1" Bighorn sheep tag out of the Statewide quota.
How many folks here are lobbying Sacramento for Nonresidents to get at least 10% of the Elk, Antelope, & Bighorn Sheep Tags?
First, to apply for a tag you have to buy a hunting license and Nonresidents cant even apply for an Elk or Antelope Tag (Residents Only). They limit the NonResident to "1" Bighorn sheep tag out of the Statewide quota.
How many folks here are lobbying Sacramento for Nonresidents to get at least 10% of the Elk, Antelope, & Bighorn Sheep Tags?
