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I should have known we were in for an interesting hog hunting trip when I showed up at VAFB and the Visitors Center was simply “Closed” for the day. A call to the main gate got me “walk up and we’ll see”. Meanwhile, Dan was off scouting out a new camping area with a roof under where he could pitch his tent - gnarly weather was predicted to be “on its way”. When Dan showed up, we walked to the guard gate and after 20’ of paper/computer/phone stuff, I had duped them into thinking I was not a terrorist and was granted permission to enter. We then get to the “Conservation” (aka hunting) office only to learn that the entire NE section (C3) was closed to hunting because of an Air Force overnight campout (I think they call it an exercise in the military). That meant we could not hunt the spots where we’d see the hogs last trip and where Dan had planned to go. And we couldn’t camp in the campground with the roof. We set up camp at the usual spot and headed out to the Gun Club range to sight in a scoped rifled barrel shotgun I‘d borrowed from Trkyhtr3 figuring once it rained, we’d not be able to get into the 1a. Scoped.jpg rifle areas due to road conditions. So it was buy some slugs from Alan, the “Hog Angel” of VAFB (and pick up some hog intel) and let’s have at it. At this point I’m thinking; "Gee thanks Trkyhtr3 for lending me your scoped rifled shotgun." I take the first shot with the 870 Remington pump using 2 ¾ Federal copper sabots. BANG, SMACK, CRAP! There is blood running down my face and dripping off my nose and chin. I’d “scoped” myself real good and had a nice ¾ inch curved gash above my right eyebrow. Doh! In addition to using a slug through a pump, I hadn’t noticed but the scope was set way back (see photo) - all that combined was enough to really “scope me”.


Thank goodness I wasn’t using the 3 or 3.5” in slugs I have. I’d probably have been knocked unconscious or 1b. Doh!.jpg worse yet, dented the scope. Heaven forefend. Two or three stitches would have been nice but that would have screwed the day so alcohol treatment (external application only), pressure/ice, and then Steri-Strips and we were good to go after Dan got “the beast” sighted in. Here is a picture on the right of the cut after 2 days when the edges were nicely fused.

As it’s early and sunny, we figure to scout some shot gun areas Alan mentioned. We start to walk along one jeep trial in the brush when all of sudden, no less than Rudolph Nureav appears in front of me literally climbing into the sky with one of his famous ballet leaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Nureyev. My brain quickly recalibrated and realized that it was Dan who had just done that pirouetting 2.5 twisting Hamel camel, degree of difficulty 4.9. I stood there with my mouth open as Dan came up down to earth with dilated pupils and hunkered down behind me. WTF? I figured he must have seen Moses’ “burning bush”. Once Dan’s tongue got unstuck from the roof of his mouth, he stammered “snake”. So I walk about 5 feet forward and there is this almighty loud rattle. Not the usual shake shake, leave me alone” rattle but a very loud and long 20 sec non-stop piss off dude or you die” rattle. And Dan is particularly NOT fond of snakes. I didn’t have my Rocky snake proof boots on so I very gingerly walked all around the rattling bush that is right in the middle of the trail - the rattle continues and gets even more urgent. I’ve never heard such persistent rattling. But no matter how hard I looked, I couldn’t make out the culprit in the dense brush. So after marking the spot with a stick, we go down the trail and scout. On the way back, I throw a stick at the bush and immediately the rattler goes off again with this loud prolonged warning. Boy was that was one snake with a bad a** attitude. In the end, we never saw the culprit. I simply was not willing (e.g. stupid enough) to get in and start lifting up the brush to look for it – some wisdom comes with age.

No more than 30 min later, we stop to check out a spot and what is poking its head over from the side of the truck? A gorgeous 4 foot plus long garter snake – biggest one I’ve ever seen in CA. Being an old snake handler, I figure I’ll just neutralize his mouth by grabbing him behind the head but the snake decided to neutralize my finger with his mouth; works every time. So after getting the handsome long fellow settled by the side of the road, it was off for serious hunting.
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On the way, the mustard was so high that Dan at 6’1” simply had to take 10 steps to disappear into it. In the right had picture, that is Dan holding up my hat over his headso you can see where he is. Tall mustard!

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We move on to high ridge area overlooking a group of trails and the Pacific Ocean and settle in to keep watch as the sun begins to sink. Dan spotted a sow with five piglets about a mile away. All of a sudden, mom gathered up the babes and buggered off – maybe she saw Dan’s snake. I then spotted a single hog out in the same general area. So as the light begins to fade our hopes rise only to have another unwelcome guest show up – fog/clouds. The visibility quickly drops to less than 50 yards so we move in close to the trail convergence figuring we won’t be able to shoot what we can’t see. The fog waxes and wanes but it is definitely had us down to bow and arrow range. 7. Dan as the fog rolls in.jpg

A couple of deer peek at us though the fog and then they bugger off. In the end, no sign of any hogs, so back to camp and after a belly full of Dan’s home made tamales, we turn in for the night.

Next AM, it’s back to the same area but just as we crest the ridge to the good zone, the fog/clouds roll in and vis goes to crap. We did meet a fellow JHO’er (Dean from S B) who’d hiked all the way up the ridge (he is new to VAFB, we drove). Dan kindly gave him lots of pointers as we wishfully waited for the fog to lift. During a minute of good visibility, I spotted two nice hogs heading our way and in an approachable area but before Dan could even get to where I was, the fog solidified and all was gray mist again. After 30 min of wishful thinking that the fog/clouds will go away, we decided we need to get below it as we are essentially hunting by Braille. We go down into the lower areas that are shotgun and don’t see much in the way of sign so we do lunch of Catalina venison burger and have a rest. 8. Lunch.jpg
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In the PM, the ridge tops are clear so we scout around from below. Note I’m wearing my St. Patrick’s Day tie although it proved to be not nearly as effective as the Valentine’s Day candy, http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums...e’s-Day-considered-baiting-It-worked-sort-of…

Then we head up only to have the fog roll in within 10 min. of us cresting the ridge. So for the second time this day, we quickly bug out and head down to sea level and stake out a shot gun area where we find lots of recent rooting. Again the clouds drop down after us and mist blows across giving us reduced but adequate vis. However no one shows up to party so at dark we call it, have Dan’s fantastic home made Kielbasa and turn in. The rain hits in earnest at 2:30 am but when we roll out at 5:30 am, it has slackened into intermittent showers yet now the wind is really blowing. The rain makes much of VAFB hunt inaccessible so it is back to the “rooted area” of last night which we glass but no hogs and very few deer are out which is not surprising given the blustery wind. After checking a few more spots like the one in the photo, we decide to pull stakes and head home… I kept telling Dan; "Take a few more steps back for this photo, don't worry about the sign" but he wasn’t willing – what a wuss.
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As ever, a fun trip that provided another step toward total enlightenment.

PS – the Air Force “camp out” was aborted after one night because it was predicted to rain – hard to believe the rain would chase away a military exercise. The girl scouts would have stuck it out but Dan tells me that is the way with the AF. Unfortunately, even though they were gone by Friday noon, the powers that be didn’t see fit to open the NE hunting area until next week. Dan being a retired sea dog, had a few colorful things to say about that like; “Oh bother, how dreadful”.
 
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Hogs or no hogs, sounds like another fun trip. You always seem to find the lighter side of life. Great read once again Andy!
 

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Sorry I missed the fun. I too hate snakes but love the fog. Better luck next time and keep up the good hunting. Sharing the fun always makes it better.
 

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Nice write-up Andy....Sounds like you guys had a great time!
 

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It does sound like you guys had way too much fun. I think I will have to come on the next one to help keep the focus on the hunting...
 

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It does sound like you guys had way too much fun. I think I will have to come on the next one to help keep the focus on the hunting...

If you could free up your schedule some.....It's not like I've made the offer. Start looking at your schedule for the end of April, first half of May. Then e-mail me and maybe we can figure a way to get you AND Andy on the same trip. With both of you there, there out to be absolute pandemonium, worthy of a pulitzer.
 

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Andy was sure bleeding alot...:rotflmao:
I had the bino's up, ready to call the shot....then BANG :censored:. And I mean it wasn't "gosh, darn it". I looked over and the blood was already dripping off his chin. We used all the 2x2 gauze I had in the first aide kit.

He declined the offer of the spray-on bandage (that stuff burns!). After about 20 minutes, the bleeding slowed down enough that we could put some butterfly strips on to close the wound. He really needed stitches but....

Needless to say, Andy was a little "gun-shy" after that.:darwin award:
 

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Looks like you better throw some Crazy Glue in the First Aid Box. "Liquid Stitches", we call it.

Sounds like an adventure for sure, keep the stories coming.
 

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Looks like you better throw some Crazy Glue in the First Aid Box. "Liquid Stitches", we call it.

Sounds like an adventure for sure, keep the stories coming.

Had it. Wouldn't use it.

I've got a pretty good first aide kit in the truck. My wifes in the medical field and we both put it together based on past hunting "disasters".

Seems I use it on every trip, either on myself or someone else.

LOL, he was bleeding, but good!
 

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Thanks guys. We certainly enjoyed the day fun but it was a bit frustrating for Ltdann as he’d specifically made plans to camp near and hunt at C3. According to Ltdann, there really wasn’t a lot of game moving about for VAFB, maybe they knew the storm was on its way and were battening down the hatches. And believe me, Dan has amazing eyes for spotting stuff; he’s just like Admiral Eagle Eye. One interesting animal we saw at a distance first looked like a wounded (run over/injured) badger or fox as it sort of was pulling itself along across the road and was very low to the ground. When we got close, it stood up and took off; it was a baby bobcat stalking something. Never had a chance to get the camera on it.

K_rad, You definitely should go with Ltdann next time. It’s very interesting just to see the place in addition to the hunt. You know there are some pretty “bad boys” in those sealed off underground bunkers with the motion sensing fences etc.

I’m afraid I don’t even get close to a Darwin award for just scoping myself. You have to die to win one. The best you can get is an honorable mention if you don’t die. Now if I’d dug through the brush with my bare hands to find (and get bitten) by that rattler, that would have put me in the running for a Darwin. Dan did have a real good first aid kit – the scalp/face just bleed a lot. Once the bleeding stopped, it was easy to oppose the edges with Steri-strips and it has healed up beautifully. The mark will be one with a hundred other wrinkles and old ice hockey scars – I played before people wore helmets, much less face guards.

PS - I think the picture of Ltdann in the fog is one of the better ones I've taken in years. The fog really makes the picture/color/light.
 
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It's all good, as always, it was a pleasure and an adventure to be outdoors and be able to share it with friends.

We saw pigs. They weren't in any place we could get too them, but we saw them. Since C-3 was out-of-the-picture, I literally tried every spot I'd ever seen pigs or even heard there might be pigs. We found some a really nice rooting spot, about an acre's worth that seemed reasonably fresh. We sat on that until dark and weather closed us out.
 

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Alright, end of April beginning of May, I am in! Can you bring RV's?
 

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If that's your registered vehicle. Wadda ya got in mind?

I was planning on camping at the alternate campcround, there are no hookups there or pads. You can drive the RV on the grass, I guess. It has a toilet and a picnic pavilion, some fire rings and not much else. If all goes well, there will probably be a max of 5 people, minimum of 2.
 

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Ive marked the calander, no excusses this time. My freezer is running low and Andy's skin on the end of my scope will not feed anyone... If I sponsor Andy that means he has to do my share of the camp work correct???
 

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Ive marked the calander, no excusses this time. My freezer is running low and Andy's skin on the end of my scope will not feed anyone... If I sponsor Andy that means he has to do my share of the camp work correct???

ummmm, Sure...I'll go with that.
 

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I hear asaxon has a case of MERSA.

Minimal Eye Relief Scope Accident ..............

I pity the next hog he draws down on, it's payback time baby.
 

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I hear asaxon has a case of MERSA.

Minimal Eye Relief Scope Accident .............. QUOTE]

Well I have heard of Menza the international high IQ society (oh please, can I throw up now). My application was just rejected when they heard about my scoping myself. I have also heard of MRSA - methacillin resistant Staph aureus, but through rapid cleaning and good hygiene I managed to avoid getting the cut infected with this bad boy but MERSA is a new one to me. IIHTSEIBLT*

As for me doing Trkyhtr3's camp work, I'll go with that. I can give orders and act like I know what I am doing...

*If It Happened To Someone Else I'd Be Laughing Too...
 

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Reminds me of my favorite: MWWHOTHWTWC.....Men who were hit on the head when they were children......I've met a few of them.
 
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