Arrow Penetration on Boars

[Nic Barca]

I would bet money that if somebody had his arrow stopped dead on a pig's pad, that the arrow probably hit the shoulder blade and that is why it stopped. Other possibilities: 1. Angle; a one inch pad at too steep an angle becomes a three inch pad. 2. dull broadheads, or improper broadhead selection. 3. Exceptionally thick pad capable of stopping an arrow which cannot be proven easily.

I'm gonna have to disagree with kingwouldbe's classification system, even though I really liked it. There is no direct correlation between age, weight, tusk size, and pad thickness. Or at least none that I have seen and I've been there for some 100 or more pigs killed in the last 4 years, most of which we judged age by molars. Seems to me like feral pigs have such high genetic variation that it just become a great hog-podge of traits.

 

[bayedsolid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nic Barca @ Feb 12 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I would bet money that if somebody had his arrow stopped dead on a pig's pad, that the arrow probably hit the shoulder blade and that is why it stopped. Other possibilities: 1. Angle; a one inch pad at too steep an angle becomes a three inch pad. 2. dull broadheads, or improper broadhead selection. 3. Exceptionally thick pad capable of stopping an arrow which cannot be proven easily.[/b]

When I was about 14 I was hunting with a couple of buddies and we spotted this big 'ol boar a long ways away. An hour or so later we had put the perfect stalk on him and I was 30 yards away from a really big boar. You could see the armor hanging on him and it was really thick. I managed to sail my arrow right under him cause I couldn't wait to watch the arrow hit it's mark and I dropped my arm. He took off and headed across this little draw right to where my buddy was sitting just in case this happened. Granted, this was 20 years ago and technology has come along way since then but he was shooting a 70lb compound bow and new 3 blade broadheads. He was crouched next to a dead log and came to a full draw as the boar trotted by at about 10 feet. He plugged him right behind the shoulder and it barely drew blood. It was something to see as the arrow just stopped as it would when you shoot a tree. 1/4 mile or so later of just following tracks here and there and we found where he topped the canyon and over the other side he went. He broke the arrow off on a tree right at the top where he went over and it only went in 2 to 3 inches by comparing it to one of his arrows in his quiver. I'm still haunted by those pearly whites he was showing but it would have taken the perfect quartering away shot to get past that armor. By far the vast majority of boars don't have that kind of armor but a few grow it to 3 inches thick.

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I'm gonna have to disagree with kingwouldbe's classification system, even though I really liked it. There is no direct correlation between age, weight, tusk size, and pad thickness. Or at least none that I have seen and I've been there for some 100 or more pigs killed in the last 4 years, most of which we judged age by molars. Seems to me like feral pigs have such high genetic variation that it just become a great hog-podge of traits.[/b]

I fully agree.

 

[kingwouldbe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nic Barca @ Feb 12 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I would bet money that if somebody had his arrow stopped dead on a pig's pad, that the arrow probably hit the shoulder blade and that is why it stopped. Other possibilities: 1. Angle; a one inch pad at too steep an angle becomes a three inch pad. 2. dull broadheads, or improper broadhead selection. 3. Exceptionally thick pad capable of stopping an arrow which cannot be proven easily.

I'm gonna have to disagree with kingwouldbe's classification system, even though I really liked it. There is no direct correlation between age, weight, tusk size, and pad thickness. Or at least none that I have seen and I've been there for some 100 or more pigs killed in the last 4 years, most of which we judged age by molars. Seems to me like feral pigs have such high genetic variation that it just become a great hog-podge of traits.[/b]

Nic, I can respect that you disagree with my account of boars and there size and you have that privilege, but your only 23 and I was killing boars long before you where chitting graypopon, Nic your in over your head and about to loose your money.

What the hell is a Pad? are you talking about bears, bears have pads, but I've never see a pad on a boar, the ones I have had the privilege to kill all had vary tough cartilage witch is commonly called ARMOR and with good reason, #1 armor is hard, #2 pads are soft, #3 it is just like a plate of armor covering the vitals, and can, and has stop-ed bullets of all calibers, it also can, and has stop-ed many arrows.

Now before I take your money, I think your experience is just from the islands and I know that the island hogs over here are a smaller kind of boar than the mainland,
They rarely get the size of a good main lander, but never get the size of a big main lander.

There is no direct correlation between age, weight, tusk size, and pad thickness. Or at least none that I have seen and I've been there for some 100 or more pigs killed in the last 4 years,

Nic the above statement gives you away and it shows that you have know knowledge about big boars, your 100% wrong ( well let me give you an out, OK so you've only killed dinks, that's alright the little one are the better eater anyway )

This ones pushing 400lbs

 

[kingwouldbe]

don't tell me show me

 

[kingwouldbe]

Nic this is the armor from the boar above ( pad, for you )

 

[kingwouldbe]

400lb longbow boar

 

[kingwouldbe]

300+lb boar

 

[kingwouldbe]

another 300+lb boar

 

[kingwouldbe]

another 300lb'er

 

[kingwouldbe]

a vary large Island boar

 

[kingwouldbe]

a vary large Island boar

 

[kingwouldbe]

another Island boar

 

[kingwouldbe]

Big tusker Islander

 

[bhrhunts]

I know it's a little heated in here, but I thought this would crack you guys up, when you guys were talking about "pads" I thought you meant their "dens" or "homes"... you'll have to reread it that way it's pretty funny. Never heard armor called a pad before. It's anything but a pad.
NICE HAWGS by the way.

 

[kingwouldbe]

another 300lb'er

 

[kingwouldbe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bhrhunts @ Feb 12 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I know it's a little heated in here, but I thought this would crack you guys up, when you guys were talking about "pads" I thought you meant their "dens" or "homes"... you'll have to reread it that way it's pretty funny. Never heard armor called a pad before. It's anything but a pad.
NICE HAWGS by the way.[/b]

It ant heated, just don't try and feed me BS and call it donuts, as you can tell I don't stand for it.

 

[kingwouldbe]

Big red

 

[kingwouldbe]

this guy has some armor

 

[kingwouldbe]

This boar can take some serious punishment

 

[spectr17]

What was the topic again?