Bullets for Boars

[ksberry209]

I am planning on joining the crowd at FHL over Pres weekend. This will be my first pig hunt and first time at FHL. I will have a new 7MM for my adventure and was wondering which round you hog hunters use. I don't reload and was looking at the Black Hills ammo which loads Nolster Accubond. Is this a good round for pigs and or CA deer? A buddy uses Winchester failsafes which are hard to find now (I hear they have discontinued this product).

What is your round of choice???

 

[BDB]

I use either Remmington Core-Lokt's or I use Federals with Noslar partitions. The Core-Lokt are a good value though and get the job done in my 30-06. I hear good things about both the accubonds and also the failsafes though.

 

[Speckmisser]

KS,

Welcome aboard!

The Accubond is a good bullet, and will suffice in that 7mm for anything from elk to hogs. It'll certainly kill a deer too.

A lot of folks tend to go right for the fancy, high-end bullets and totally disregard the old, stand-by ammo like Core-Lokt and Winchester Power Points. For the purposes of most hunters, this ammo is perfect. The performance is proven over time, the accuracy (varies from gun to gun) is reliable, and the price is right. Compared to $35 or more for the "premium" ammo, the standards are usually almost half the price.

Anyway, just some food for thought.

 

[SDHNTR]

Outside of the Ballistic Tips and similar, any bullet out of your 7mm mag will work fine if put in the right spot. I'd personally favor an offering on the heavier side.

I've personally killed 20+ hogs and been in on twice that many kills. Most of those were killed with Remington Corelocts. They are great at moderate velocities. Just don't shoot a light one out of your 7mm mag. A 160, or better yet, 175 gr, would be bad medicine.

But yes, those accubonds would be awesome too.

 

[PorkChopper]

Barnes Bullets are great! Especially Tripple Shocks.

Also 12. Ga slug is quite the dropper... I have never had a pig go very far after taking a slug. (usually les than 15 yards)

 

[Rancho Loco]

Personally, I've had success with:

Speer Grand Slams
Speer Hot-cors
Swift Scirrocos
Barnes TSX's
Speer Uni-cors

The unifying theme - tough construction. Accubonds, Partitions, Corelokts, Interbonds, Interlocks will work too...Anything with a tough construction in the right place will kill a hog. They might do a 50 yard death run, but they'll be dead when they stop running.

Stay away from Ballistic tips, SST's, Game Kings, and other fast expanding bullets.

 

[Redneck75]

One more vote for the Rem Core-Lokt. Mine come out of the business end of an -06 as well. I'm shooting 180 grain now but that's more to do with the elk hunting I do than the pigs. Hit 'em behind the shoulder and most anything will work darn near every time (obvious varmint loads or other foolishness excepted). Hit 'em in the rump and nothing will. Good luck!!!

Better piece of advice...if you've never been pig hunting before...don't go!! It's a terribly expensive addiction!! Yeah, I'm hooked and donate a large portion of my annual income to the pursuit of breakfast sausage!!

 

[spectr17]

Big hogs need big medicine. 180 grain Nosler Partitions. When you care enough to send the very best downrange

 

[Common Sense]

Placement is more important than the bullet; so shoot whatever your rifle likes.

 

[Rancho Loco]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Common Sense @ Jan 31 2007, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Placement is more important than the bullet[/b]

I'll have to disagree. I think in regards to pigs, they are both important.
A partition, accubond, TSX, or any other tough constructed bullet (in the proper caliber) in the shoulder of a large hog will penetrate to the vitals.

A ballistic tip type will grenade, leading to alot of meat loss and possibly a lost animal.

 

[Arrowslinger]

I roll with 160 grain Accubonds thru my 7mm......also stay far away from light (140 grain'ish) ballistic tips on hogs!

 

[DEERSLAM]

I'm not a big fan of Ballistic Tips for hogs but I must say I have taken two hogs with them...both head shots. The boar in my avatar was taken with a 130gr BT outta my .270. Not much for lost meat there. I will be using Rem. Core-Lokt's these weekend though.

 

[spectr17]

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Placement is more important than the bullet; so shoot whatever your rifle likes.[/b]

Iffen say a hog only presents a frontal shot thru that mass of fat they call the shield, you can have your pea shooter, I'll take big medicine. While you're praying to find some sort of blood trail in the dark I'll just borrow your knife sharpener so I can finish skinning my hog. Deal?

I'm still wondering why some folks use Ballistic tips on big game. If you like grenaded hamburger meat that's the ticket for sure.

Best BS ballistic tip story I ever heard was this guy who turned out to be a poacher in our camp. He came into camp with a doe one year in D14. His story was he was shooting at a buck and his BT went through and killed a doe standing on the other side. Sounds sorta believeable if you've never seen what a BT does when it hits a big mule deer. I wasn't there or I'd of turned his sorry butt in. He was just after some meat and claimed the buck ran off and he couldn't find it.

 

[Wild1]

This lethal combination always works for me:
30.06
165 grn. Trouphy Bonded Bear Claw

 

[rodneyshishido]

I use a 7mm-08 with 140 grain Remington Corelokts. Be aware that the vitals on a hog are slightly farther forward than on a deer. I usually try for a shot behind the ear. I would suggest going through the shoulder but below the midpoint.

 

[Speckmisser]

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Be aware that the vitals on a hog are slightly farther forward than on a deer. I usually try for a shot behind the ear.[/b]

I'm sorry... but properly taken out of context, that statement right there is some funny stuff!

 

[beastslayer]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Speckmisser @ Jan 29 2007, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

A lot of folks tend to go right for the fancy, high-end bullets and totally disregard the old, stand-by ammo like Core-Lokt and Winchester Power Points. For the purposes of most hunters, this ammo is perfect. The performance is proven over time, the accuracy (varies from gun to gun) is reliable, and the price is right. Compared to $35 or more for the "premium" ammo, the standards are usually almost half the price.[/b]

Could'nt agree more. Am a subscriber to "KISS" - Keep it simple stupid!

Downed a 180-pound pig with one shot for a 20 inch barrel Win Lever action with a 150 grain Win Power Point. Shattered the front leg and vaporized the top portion of the heart.

 

[doccherry]

I'm a firm believer that you should use the stoutest round that you can comfortably shoot with accuracy on all big game. If you're considering using a .243 on hogs but can shoot a 30/06 with accuracy and very little flinch, then use it, not the .243. With bullets, the biggest problems I've seen are lack of accuracy and lack of penetration. I bought a bunch of Ballistic Tips years ago in 7mm [for a 7-08] and 30 cal for 30/06 and .300 Win Mag. I worked up every load you can imagine, using several bullet weights in each caliber, and I could not, under any circumstances, get those bullets to fly with any sort of consistency. I have no idea what the problem was but they were awful. I then switched to Nosler Partitions in all three calibers and the accuracy improved tremendously. Tinkering around some more, I tried Failsafes in the 7-08 and the .300 Win Mag and got really tight groups. Same thing with the Barnes X Bullet in the .300 Win Mag. I stuck with the Failsafes and have taken several deer and a whole lot of hogs, with both 7-08 and .300 Win Mag. Penetration has been very good and the bullets hold together. If the bullet doesn't pass all the way through a big hog, you will find it, in one piece, buried in the far shoulder. By the way, that Vancouver bull I shot last week ran only 25 yards and then dropped, and the penetration of the bullet was pretty good. Problem was that the bullet did NOT stay together. All we found was the copper jacket. I have a feeling that the lead portion crapped out somewhere along the way once it hit solid muscle. I need to look into a stouter bullet for the 45/70. Any ideas, guys? A flat nose that won't fall apart is what I need, something in the 300-500 grain range.

Hogs are really easy to kill---usually. But I've shot hogs that were hit solid and they ran off leaving no blood trail at all. Most I found but some I didn't. If I were using the .300 Win Mag with the Failsafes or X Bullets, they would have flopped on the spot, but this was back when I was using bulk Speer and Sierra bullets [traditional copper jacket/lead core] that had been sitting on a shelf for 20 years. Then there are hogs, big ones, that you have to shoot when they are quartering away, a raking shot. Penetration is critical and I can't in my wildest dreams imagine a Ballistic Tip handling the job.

For the life of me, unless there is no other option, I can't see why anyone would voluntarily choose Ballistic Tips for any big game, even deer. The other bullets that the other guys mentioned probably work as well as my favorites, but I have personally never used them, so I can't say.

 

[roger1shot]

Hi,
At one time you could buy Nosler's seconds from the factory,cheep.
Now the cost of copper has gone up,and so has everyone price.
The seconds are great bullets,they shoot just as god as the ones that ,
you buy at the sporting goods.
Check out the Nosler web-site.

 

[roger1shot]

Hey,
Should have checked my post,left off a o.
Should have said they are just as good.
Late night,couldn't sleep so here I am.