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Hi I was searching through ebay and came across this website. There prices look good, I wanted to get some feedback if anyone has ever hunted with these guys. Are they really wild? thanks for any feedback.
 

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need2hunt,
Yes, the hogs are wild as wild can be. Some are 300+ lbs. and are guaranteed not housebroken. If you go in the swamps, they are there & you better be good at snap shooting with a rifle in a potent caliber with bone penetrating bullets because they will be rushing thru the waist high grass at top speed away or towards you. Contact Paul, the manager & ask him all your questions. The service we got at last months hunt was very good. God Bless. larrysogla.
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need2hunt... I would not let the picture of the caged hog deter you from exploring this ranch.. We trap hogs down here all the time. This picture by no means indicates that they are letting hogs out of a cage for you to hunt.. They could just be transporting it or going to kill it.. I have not hunted the ranch but I know that Larry had a really good experience. It sounds like a truly wild pig hunt to me and I would look into it if I were you.... It is a free-range hunt...

On a side note, we used to trap hogs and release them to train our dogs with.. I can tell you from experience that those hogs were no less wild when we released them then they were when we trapped them... Very mean!!!

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The prices seem pretty steep to me. I can find plenty of less expensive hunts in Texas. Those prices seem like California prices to me. I'd say do more research, then decide.
 

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In Tejas, there's too many wild hogs and too many places to hunt wild hogs for anyone to be sucsessful at selling a bogus "wild hog hunt". There probably wild, i'd say.

When you live in a place like Texas, everyone seems to know someone who has some land where you can hunt, or knows a rancher that has a hog problem that needs to be taken care of, or has a deer lease where there are hogs everywhere. Sucks that people "sell" hog hunts. Its like someone trying to "sell" you fly hunt.

"Here ya go pardner, here's your fly swatter. Now you kill as many of these here house flys that you can. We'll fix ya breakfast and then cover ya in honey. Those flys'll be all over you like white on rice...and that'll be $350"

Seems rediculous, but I guess thats capitolism at its best...or worst
 

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Copperpot... While I agree with you, you need to remember that you and I have it pretty good out here with access to lots of land. Someone from out-of-state that wants a good hog hunt is going to have to pay that kind of cash for it. Hell, I could make a killing charging that out on our deer lease. So you are correct, it is capitalism at its best. The ranchers know that the city folks and out-of-state people will pay it and they need the hogs gone... It is a win/win for the ranch owners....

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Very true. The ones that really bother me, I guess, are the greedy ranchers that consider these hogs as a problem and go out and try to get people to pay them to get rid of their problem. It'd be like me trying to get someone to pay me to get rid of gigantic rats in my house or something. The ones that sell hunts for real cheap and are just out doing it because its outdoors and its fun to them as well, are not who I'm talking about. Just the greedy ones that see $$ and thats it.

Anyone looking for hunts, just be aware that these animals in Texas are not to hard to come by. They're all over the place and if you are going to pay big bucks for a hunt in Texas, make sure your paying for a good bunkhouse, good service(cleaning hogs, butchering), and good meals....not for the hogs themselves.
 

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Originally posted by Timjackson@Nov 30 2004, 07:37 AM
Copperpot... While I agree with you, you need to remember that you and I have it pretty good out here with access to lots of land. Someone from out-of-state that wants a good hog hunt is going to have to pay that kind of cash for it. Hell, I could make a killing charging that out on our deer lease. So you are correct, it is capitalism at its best. The ranchers know that the city folks and out-of-state people will pay it and they need the hogs gone... It is a win/win for the ranch owners....
You Texas guys watch yourselves. This is how it starts.

Wasn't that long ago in CA that you could pretty much ask permission and hunt hogs for nothing. Somebody found out what the market will bear, and you're hard pressed to find a hunt (unguided) for under $400.
 

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Copperpot,

I'm with you 100%, it's all Capitolism, and BS stories and a bunch excuses to suck out more
money from we the hunters, like here in California every one jumps, if your against
ranchers, and their business, they keep raising their fees, that looks like your in an
elephant safari in africa. give me a break!!

PS: Ca hunting sucks!!
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Yep...You're right. Now go troll somewhere else and leave us to our miserable lives.
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Originally posted by 7magHunter@Nov 30 2004, 09:16 PM
PS: Ca hunting sucks!!   
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That quote may of been Plagerized from a desperate woman looking for a good man after the first date?
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Sorry- 7mag that was not nice of me to say
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You Texas guys watch yourselves. This is how it starts.[/b]

Speck. I don't think it will ever get to bad here. The main reason being is that pigs will never be classified as game animals here like they are in California. Yea there are places that try to get every penny they can out of folks, but there will always be places that just want someone to come a get rid of them. Everybody I know that has a deer lease have always allowed friends to come a kill hogs for free.

And 7mag. Is your purpose for being on this site to see how much crap you can stir up in the shortest amount of time. If so then your on your way to a record.
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Speck... I sure hope it never comes to that, but I agree with Bzz that it probably never will...

Also, I was not trying to say that we have it better than you guys (I hope that it did not come across like that), we just do not have very much public land and since we hunt mostly on private property, that changes the rules a good bit...

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Bzz and Tim...

I hope, for your own sakes and all Texas hunters that you're right. Texas is a lot different from CA in oh so many ways... but still, don't get complacent. It wasn't that long ago that CA didn't consider them game animals either. And look at us now...

Hogs have only been classified as game animals in CA for a short time. Somebody in state government made the argument that due to the proliferation of the hogs, the DFG needed a mechanism to track them, so they decided that putting a nominal charge on pig tags and giving the animals game status would provide a measure of how they're spreading across the state. Initially, the fees were justified as the cost of keeping track of harvest and distribution. You could buy a book of five tags (residents) for a few bucks.

The first couple of fee hikes were claimed as simply keeping up with prices, and I don't think there was a ton of fuss from the average hunter. Suddenly, they smack the hog hunters with this HUGE price increase for 2004. It now costs almost as much to shoot a single hog, vermin, as it does to hunt deer.

The cost of hunting access has crept up the same way. Private landowners found that people would pay to hunt these varmints. Then they found out that clubs and guides/outfitters would pay even more to lease up their land. The economy out here boomed for a couple of years, and hunters suddenly had plenty of cash to drop on a hunt, and the price increased even more. Now the economy has fallen off, but the prices are still up there.

Oh, and by the way... no problem. In a lot of ways, ya'll do have it better than us, especially if you own property or have a buddy who does. Kinda sucks how limited your public lands are, but I believe private ownership generally keeps the habitat in better condition (not counting ownership by property developers, of course).
 

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we just do not have very much public land and since we hunt mostly on private property, that changes the rules a good bit...[/b]



Actually that's not true. Texas has over 1-1/2 million acres of public hunting land. That's not including Federal land and draw hunt land either. I do alot of my hunting on public land. The problem is that since there is so much private land that is fairly resonably priced that most will lease land rather than bother with public land. Thats why public land usually gets overlooked in Texas. Which is fine by me. I'm a tight wad, so I'll utilize what ever hunting land I can. Public, trade, beg, borrow, grovel. I don't care.

Anyway. We have tons of public land. Except for opening weekends in two zones, all my other dove hunting this year was on public land. I went on a bow hunt in Del Rio just last month at Lake Amistad which is Federal Land. And in East Texas there is more public land than you could possibly ever hunt in a lifetime. Everything from Waterfowl, deer, turkey, and yes even hogs.

But if nobody else wants to use it, that's fine by me.
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I went on a hog hunt last spring in East Texas, never saw a pig bigger than my left foot, hunting eighteen hours a day/night for 2.5 days.

Heard the big boys, and saw their destruction, but didn't get to drain one, but it was fun.

After the fact I realized a few other places I should have gone.
 

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Bzzz,
Care to e-mail me what public land is available for hog hunts in East Texas. I know that East Texas is crawling with the critters, but as usual, access is the center of gravity. No need to send me to your favorite hotspots, just your leftovers, and I am mainly interested in hogs. I do not mind if I don't catch anything, I could just swing it on one of my paid hog hunts, just to see what public land hog hunting it is in Texas. I am used to coming home empty handed in Calif.
Are we allowed to bait hogs on public land??? Thanks in advance. No reply needed if all you have are your very own hotspots. God Bless. larrysogla.
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All you need to do is buy a $48.00 public land permit and then they send you 105 page book with over 90 different hunting locations. I'm not sure if it's the same price for out of state. Some of the biggest in East Texas are Sam Houston National Forest, Bannister WMA, Alabama Creek WMA, Moore Plantaion WMA, Caddo National Grassland WMA and White Oak Creek WMA. All of the above are anywhere from 8000 acres to 25,000 acres each. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. All the areas allow Deer, Turkey, Hog, waterfowl, dove, squirrel, rabbit, preditors, furbearers, and fishing. Now don't get me wrong. It's not the easiest hunting, and you will get skunked more than not. You really have to work to find the good spots, but it can be done. I believe that it was 2002 that the largest Whiteteil taken in Texas that year was on public land. Thats pretty impressive if you consider all the feeding and management that happens on private.
 

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Bzzz.
Thanks for the info. Sure helps to get started in the right direction, as an out-of-stater I had no idea such a booklet even exists. By the way, Carter Country is my favorite hangout when in Houston. God Bless. larrysogla.
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