Hi my name is Thomas. I am a first time user of the board and would like to comment on the post that started this whole strand of comments.
First, I would like to make reference to a quote from the message in which the author was making reference that all the hunters in the video were "overweight" what does that have to do with disliking the way an animal was treated. He also states that everyone in the video's name was "Kevin". If that is not stereo typing or a personal blow, then, I owe the first moderator speck an apology. I for one read this and thought man this could get ugly. Thinking that the post was starting off personal.
Second, I hunt hogs exclusively with dogs. I have tied hogs up and I have drug them out of the woods by their snout. All the hogs that I bring home are happy and healthy when they get into the pen and find the feed buckets I have for them there.
Third, I would like to respond to the comment that the author only accepts a "clean kill". I agree with this statement whole heartedly. Now, I have a question to every hunter out there. Has everyone who has shot a hog with a gun or bow dropped the hog in its tracks? Maybe you have and I just don't know how to shoot. I think the more common response would be that the hog ran or you had to track the animal down a time or two. However, the hog in dispute was kept live and was not intended on being killed so why even post the comment. Some people do take live hogs, whether trapped or caught with dogs, to a holding pen feed them like kings and queens then slaughter them for the table. You can also take live hogs to buying stations here in Texas and sell them or donate them to the Hunters for the hungry which would be used to feed a hungry child.
Finally, the author said he was a dog hunter in the past and that he used some poor kids pet pigs or "4-H projects" to train his dogs. Come on! These poor pigs think when they see a human it is for love and FOOD. Am I to assume that his dogs did not harm these animals and every time they worked one of the pigs it was killed cleanely as to not stress them out. Or am I to assume that rather then tying up the pigs to train you just help the animal to its feet and hold a bucket of feed to its face while walking it back to its sleeping quarters. As far as the dog biting the hog after it was tied, I didn't see the video. However, sometimes after you tie one up the dogs leave on another one when they return they may get back on the hog. It is the handlers responsibility to get the dogs off the hog to keep it from being stressed out.
I am sorry I am so long winded it is just that there are people out there trying to take my right to hunt with my dogs away from me. I love and appreciate every opportunity that I get to work my dogs on hogs in the wild. I have not seen the video in question and I am not trying to attack the author. I am just stating how I feel about what was written.
I also invite the author to respond to my post and since he has experience with hog dogs maybe he has some advice for me that could help me in training my dogs in the future.
Take care of your dogs they will take care of you,
Thomas
First, I would like to make reference to a quote from the message in which the author was making reference that all the hunters in the video were "overweight" what does that have to do with disliking the way an animal was treated. He also states that everyone in the video's name was "Kevin". If that is not stereo typing or a personal blow, then, I owe the first moderator speck an apology. I for one read this and thought man this could get ugly. Thinking that the post was starting off personal.
Second, I hunt hogs exclusively with dogs. I have tied hogs up and I have drug them out of the woods by their snout. All the hogs that I bring home are happy and healthy when they get into the pen and find the feed buckets I have for them there.
Third, I would like to respond to the comment that the author only accepts a "clean kill". I agree with this statement whole heartedly. Now, I have a question to every hunter out there. Has everyone who has shot a hog with a gun or bow dropped the hog in its tracks? Maybe you have and I just don't know how to shoot. I think the more common response would be that the hog ran or you had to track the animal down a time or two. However, the hog in dispute was kept live and was not intended on being killed so why even post the comment. Some people do take live hogs, whether trapped or caught with dogs, to a holding pen feed them like kings and queens then slaughter them for the table. You can also take live hogs to buying stations here in Texas and sell them or donate them to the Hunters for the hungry which would be used to feed a hungry child.
Finally, the author said he was a dog hunter in the past and that he used some poor kids pet pigs or "4-H projects" to train his dogs. Come on! These poor pigs think when they see a human it is for love and FOOD. Am I to assume that his dogs did not harm these animals and every time they worked one of the pigs it was killed cleanely as to not stress them out. Or am I to assume that rather then tying up the pigs to train you just help the animal to its feet and hold a bucket of feed to its face while walking it back to its sleeping quarters. As far as the dog biting the hog after it was tied, I didn't see the video. However, sometimes after you tie one up the dogs leave on another one when they return they may get back on the hog. It is the handlers responsibility to get the dogs off the hog to keep it from being stressed out.
I am sorry I am so long winded it is just that there are people out there trying to take my right to hunt with my dogs away from me. I love and appreciate every opportunity that I get to work my dogs on hogs in the wild. I have not seen the video in question and I am not trying to attack the author. I am just stating how I feel about what was written.
I also invite the author to respond to my post and since he has experience with hog dogs maybe he has some advice for me that could help me in training my dogs in the future.
Take care of your dogs they will take care of you,
Thomas