Lake Sonoma Pig hunt auction

[pierpont scott]

Call the dfg

 

[500+grns]

TRA,
You're a screw ball and it's obvious everyone knows this but you.
Here's a proposal...
Lake Sonoma Wildlife Area becomes open to registered archery hunters for an addition fee of $100. per season. This should cover all the funds that FOLS are pursuing for their organization on an annual basis. This will give hard working tax paying hunters an opportunity to hunt THEIR public land in an area that is so overly infested by hogs and more than likely the largest contributor of feral hogs migrating to the remainder of Lake Sonoma recreation areas.
Jayson and his dog can police the area to make sure everyone hunting the area has their additional stamp.
In addition... The DFG issues 10 more A25 tags giving those who draw an opportunity to take a Blacktail deer with bow and arrow and manage overpopulation in this area as well.
This is public land and should be available to the public. Not just those who can afford dropping $$$$ to hunt.
BTY I've taken well over 30 hogs by bow at LS the last 15 or so years hunting there.Truth is I lost count.

 

[THE ROMAN ARCHER]

500 G I totally understand your point and yes it doesn't seem fair with the situation, I have no problem with your view and take I am not saying u are wrong. I just don't think Jason deserves the flack u guys are giving him, that's all......tra

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[Beastmode]

TRA,
You're a screw ball and it's obvious everyone knows this but you.
Here's a proposal...
Lake Sonoma Wildlife Area becomes open to registered archery hunters for an addition fee of $100. per season. This should cover all the funds that FOLS are pursuing for their organization on an annual basis. This will give hard working tax paying hunters an opportunity to hunt THEIR public land in an area that is so overly infested by hogs and more than likely the largest contributor of feral hogs migrating to the remainder of Lake Sonoma recreation areas.
Jayson and his dog can police the area to make sure everyone hunting the area has their additional stamp.
In addition... The DFG issues 10 more A25 tags giving those who draw an opportunity to take a Blacktail deer with bow and arrow and manage overpopulation in this area as well.
This is public land and should be available to the public. Not just those who can afford dropping $$$$ to hunt.
BTY I've taken well over 30 hogs by bow at LS the last 15 or so years hunting there.Truth is I lost count.

I would disagree with the 10 more tags. There are some awesome bucks in there right now and more tags means less bucks have a chance to make it to be that big. Wait to get your points and you will draw a tag.

The way I see it with the auction tag you are basically bidding on a trespass fee and Jayson is tagging along to help. If you want to go solo im sure it wouldn't be a huge issue. You aren't going to pay Jayson, so is he really a guide? I think you are blowing this way out of proportion and being a little immature on the whole issue.

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[THE ROMAN ARCHER]

Like I said 500 G I uderstand the whole scenario u present on the lake situation and I am not disagreeing with u on the politics part of it. I just don't think Jayson is the bad guy in all this, I have high respect for him as a friend and hunter and jho member. And i want to have tbe same respect for u so sorry if I rubbed u the wrong way but u would stick up for your good friend too if u really think he didn't deserve to get a little bashing. Super congrats on your successful long history taking hogs at lake Sonoma I can highly respect that 500 g, Have a great day...tra


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[500+grns]

I would disagree with the 10 more tags. There are some awesome bucks in there right now and more tags means less bucks have a chance to make it to be that big. Wait to get your points and you will draw a tag.

The way I see it with the auction tag you are basically bidding on a trespass fee and Jayson is tagging along to help. If you want to go solo im sure it wouldn't be a huge issue. You aren't going to pay Jayson, so is he really a guide? I think you are blowing this way out of proportion and being a little immature on the whole issue.

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10 tags = 1-2 deer taken with bow.
Jayson is guiding for $1500 a day for deer and apparently now has exclusive rights to pig hunt the Wildlife area.
The point...
1.Equal opportunity to the public to hunt public land.
2.Written law associated with guiding and any monies attached to this as a service.

 

[Beastmode]

I dont see where it says in any of his posts where he has exclusive rights to hunt pigs. It does say he has permission to take hunters who get the auction tags in the wildlife area. Which im sure was the condition of getting those tags to go to auction was to have someone with the hunters to make sure they stay on public land.

500 since you are a biologist studying deer numbers maybe you can tell me how many deer should be taken at ls each year and sustain big bucks? If you cant wait 5 years to draw a premium tag you have issues.

How about they add 10 more big horn tags to each area too while we are at it. Our kids don't need to have game around to hunt....

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[Live2hunt]

BTY I've taken well over 30 hogs by bow at LS the last 15 or so years hunting there.Truth is I lost count.

I thought bowhunting hog at Lake Sonoma has only been opened to the public for 9 years. Before that it was rifle hunt by drawing.

 

[500+grns]

I thought bowhunting hog at Lake Sonoma has only been opened to the public for 9 years. Before that it was rifle hunt by drawing.

I believe the USACOE pig hunts started in '02.
Prior to that, yes it was a DFG draw. Archery, Shotgun, Rifle
My buddy and I drew most years and became friendly with the warden who used to let us in on most of the other scheduled weekly hunts because the majority of Jack Holes who drew would not show up.
They had a major pig problem back then. The entire place was turned upside down at times.
'04-'10 were highly productive years after investing in a boat and hunted at least a dozen times a season with about a 70% success. Early years much better than others prior to internet announcements.

 

[Grasslandhntr]

500 you must have toed the short bus to school he doesn't guide for 1500 a day for deer it was 500 for day one 50 per day if u stayed for sat and Sunday so an extra 100 for the weekend I believe so your information is way off base get ur facts straight before u begin bashing people on A public forum jayson has done more for that lake and hunter access than you would in a million years go fly a kite!

 

[500+grns]

You would fit right into the screw ball category as well.
We're talking about bow hunting and the percentage of success ratio = to the # of wildlife that needs to be managed Jackhole.
It doesn't take a biologist to figure out this specific area of LS needs deer management.
A25 tags are an archery only either sex hunt.One of the few opportunities a bow hunter actually has a decent chance to harvest a deer in CA with out dealing with the ridiculous seasonal elements factored in the general archery season.
The LS Wildlife area is a huge part of the landscape surrounding the lake needing the most management.
10 additional tags would be sufficient for hunting with bow + the fact that not to many would brave the landscape.
As for the hog hunting... Don't get me started why I even need a tag to hunt them or pay the govt. and a nonprofit to hunt them on public land.

 

[500+grns]

500 you must have toed the short bus to school he doesn't guide for 1500 a day for deer it was 500 for day one 50 per day if u stayed for sat and Sunday so an extra 100 for the weekend I believe so your information is way off base get ur facts straight before u begin bashing people on A public forum jayson has done more for that lake and hunter access than you would in a million years go fly a kite!

Guide?

 

[Beastmode]

You would fit right into the screw ball category as well.
We're talking about bow hunting and the percentage of success ratio = to the # of wildlife that needs to be managed Jackhole.
It doesn't take a biologist to figure out this specific area of LS needs deer management.
A25 tags are an archery only either sex hunt.One of the few opportunities a bow hunter actually has a decent chance to harvest a deer in CA with out dealing with the ridiculous seasonal elements factored in the general archery season.
The LS Wildlife area is a huge part of the landscape surrounding the lake needing the most management.
10 additional tags would be sufficient for hunting with bow + the fact that not to many would brave the landscape.
As for the hog hunting... Don't get me started why I even need a tag to hunt them or pay the govt. and a nonprofit to hunt them on public land.

Jackhole huh? What about the junior hunt either sex right before? I think the tags are perfect. You have a good chance of killing a good buck. 10 more tags means 10 more hunters to contend with. People aren't going to wait 5 years and not kill something. Small bucks get shot on this hunt because people want to go home with a deer. These bucks don't have a chance to grow up.

If you put in your time you can have multiple chances to kill bucks in general archery season in California. It just takes some dedication. If you didn't spend so much time being a whine a$$ about a guy trying to help out maybe you would have more time to research and scout.

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[Grasslandhntr]

Guide?

Dirtbag?

 

[500+grns]

I dont see where it says in any of his posts where he has exclusive rights to hunt pigs. It does say he has permission to take hunters who get the auction tags in the wildlife area. Which im sure was the condition of getting those tags to go to auction was to have someone with the hunters to make sure they stay on public land.

500 since you are a biologist studying deer numbers maybe you can tell me how many deer should be taken at ls each year and sustain big bucks? If you cant wait 5 years to draw a premium tag you have issues.

How about they add 10 more big horn tags to each area too while we are at it. Our kids don't need to have game around to hunt....

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Currently 25 tags for approximately 3000 acres.
10 more tags for an additional 5000 acres.
I'm sorry I wasn't asking for enough tags.
Bowhunting % of success to the amount of tags son.

 

[Beastmode]

25 is perfect for not getting overcrowded and keeping a good population of good bucks. It sucks people get too greedy and dont believe in conservation of game for the young hunters coming up. Why don't you hunt more general season hunts where there are plenty of tags.

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[Grasslandhntr]

Your the type of guy that comes on here and bitches but wouldn't say a word to jaysons face

 

[500+grns]

500 you must have toed the short bus to school he doesn't guide for 1500 a day for deer it was 500 for day one 50 per day if u stayed for sat and Sunday so an extra 100 for the weekend I believe so your information is way off base get ur facts straight before u begin bashing people on A public forum jayson has done more for that lake and hunter access than you would in a million years go fly a kite!

Typo (1500) (500) excuse me must of been from banging my head around in the short bus all those years.
The FROLS cash in 20k a year on the existing program and my hats off to Jayson for the time he's donated to keeping the program alive.If I were a resident in the vicinity and not a single parent i'd be right there with him volunteering my time.
Most of the time now I tend to put my buddies on top of hogs and get quite a bit out of seeing someone else take one with a bow.
It's this l$$$ thing and the DFG bending their own laws concerning guiding thats frosting my ass a bit.
Just seems to taint the freedom of hunting public land.

 

[500+grns]

Your the type of guy that comes on here and bitches but wouldn't say a word to jaysons face

I have no problem saying anything to anyones face.
And I probably wouldn't last 2 seconds exchanging words with you before I dropped you.

 

[CHAD PEZZLE]

Currently 25 tags for approximately 3000 acres.
10 more tags for an additional 5000 acres.
I'm sorry I wasn't asking for enough tags.
Bowhunting % of success to the amount of tags son.

FYI the wilderness area is not 5000 acres, it's actually a bit smaller than the area that is open to hunters already.

In this thread linked below there's a map. The area in red closed to hunting is the wilderness area, it's obviously significantly smaller than the green shaded area.

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums...ry-Crossbow-Pig-Hunt-Information-amp-Hunt-Map

I understand your frustration but please stick to the facts when trying to prove your point, it makes your argument a bit more valid.