Cold1nhand
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You know I never get tired of seeing pictures and reading stories about big hogs!
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Evan, Docherry, you guys are definately living the life. Everytime I read about your great adventures I start trying to figure out how I can pull off heading out there. Sell the house move out I can survive for a few months and get some hunting and fishin in then...
All you guys thinking about a great hunting trip to the Big Island, be advised that you can do it for a lot less than you think. For example, assume 3 guys go together from CA. Each roundtrip ticket can be purchased for about $400 if you watch for sales. Then you can rent a condo for $100 a night and share that and you can prepare your own meals which will cost the same as if you stayed home. An SUV will cost about $300 for the week and you can share that. The hunting license is about $110 apiece. Then throw in gas and miscellaneous and each guy can spend a week here for about 1000 bucks and you can hunt pigs, sheep, goats, and maybe, if you're really hard-core, a bull or two.
Some Jesse's forum members are talking about a trip to Texas. Hawaii is actually cheaper and you don't waste 4 days driving. It's a 5 hour flight from the mainland and you're in prime hunting territory two hours later.
Something to think about.
Some Jesse's forum members are talking about a trip to Texas. Hawaii is actually cheaper and you don't waste 4 days driving. It's a 5 hour flight from the mainland and you're in prime hunting territory two hours later.
Something to think about.
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I can't help but laught when I think about this, but some locals are gonna be mad that we are encouraging all these mainland hunters to come to Hawaii. I think of it as improved tourism. Seems like Hawaii has recently become much more well known as a hunting destination then it was in the past. Or maybe I'm just hanging around this board too much.
Contrary to the opinions of some local hunters, there is more than plenty to go around. And besides, stalking is fairly low impact compared to running a pack of dogs through an area. FYI, there's big territoriality amongst local hunters and many view the hunting as going downhill. ...And for sure, it is in many areas, but not here. I like how we are encouraging people to go to areas which need more animal control.
Contrary to the opinions of some local hunters, there is more than plenty to go around. And besides, stalking is fairly low impact compared to running a pack of dogs through an area. FYI, there's big territoriality amongst local hunters and many view the hunting as going downhill. ...And for sure, it is in many areas, but not here. I like how we are encouraging people to go to areas which need more animal control.
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Great... are we gonna have "Locals Only" hunting areas now too?
Nic:
If all my glorifying of Big Island hunting results in a dozen hunters visiting from the mainland per year, each shooting a pig or two and maybe a goat or a sheep and maybe one or two taking a bull, the ecosystem will be better off for it. Department of Land and Natural Resources people have told me that hunting pressure here is declining because fewer and fewer young people are interested in hunting, most of them choosing instead to sit on their fat arses and watch video games. And speaking of fat arses, the majority of teenage girls here are indeed fat [or at least significantly overweight] and about 1/3 of the teenage boys are fat. These are my own anecdotal observations and are in no way related to skin color. This place is very laid back and few kids venture beyond their own back yards. Very few of them do anything that requires physical effort. Consequently, the pig population is out of control, the sheep need to be shot by guys riding around in helicopters, the wild cattle are ruining everything in the Hilo Watershed, and the goats are eating golf courses and the vegetation along the side of the road. Have you ever noticed that there are very few hunters on the Big Island who are as young as you and Evan? They all seem to be middle age or older.
Hey, Nic, when will you be on TV? Talked to Jimmy Sites the other day and he is excited about bringing his production crew over to film you hunting goats on Kauai. He asked me all sorts of questions about you and the only negative I could come up with is that you walk too fast and your feet never seem to touch the ground as you disappear in the distance leaving this old fart in your dust.
Keep in touch. I'm eager to see the TV show.
You and Evan should really think about guiding on the side. Lots of guys on the mainland would happily pay a few hundred bucks a day to have you guys showing them the backcountry.
If all my glorifying of Big Island hunting results in a dozen hunters visiting from the mainland per year, each shooting a pig or two and maybe a goat or a sheep and maybe one or two taking a bull, the ecosystem will be better off for it. Department of Land and Natural Resources people have told me that hunting pressure here is declining because fewer and fewer young people are interested in hunting, most of them choosing instead to sit on their fat arses and watch video games. And speaking of fat arses, the majority of teenage girls here are indeed fat [or at least significantly overweight] and about 1/3 of the teenage boys are fat. These are my own anecdotal observations and are in no way related to skin color. This place is very laid back and few kids venture beyond their own back yards. Very few of them do anything that requires physical effort. Consequently, the pig population is out of control, the sheep need to be shot by guys riding around in helicopters, the wild cattle are ruining everything in the Hilo Watershed, and the goats are eating golf courses and the vegetation along the side of the road. Have you ever noticed that there are very few hunters on the Big Island who are as young as you and Evan? They all seem to be middle age or older.
Hey, Nic, when will you be on TV? Talked to Jimmy Sites the other day and he is excited about bringing his production crew over to film you hunting goats on Kauai. He asked me all sorts of questions about you and the only negative I could come up with is that you walk too fast and your feet never seem to touch the ground as you disappear in the distance leaving this old fart in your dust.
Keep in touch. I'm eager to see the TV show.
You and Evan should really think about guiding on the side. Lots of guys on the mainland would happily pay a few hundred bucks a day to have you guys showing them the backcountry.
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Most hunters are married and when they say they're heading off to Nevada or Utah to hunt, the wife says "have fun, be careful" but when he says he's going to Hawaii the response is " No way, not without me you ain't going"
Therefore, the affordable hunt with the boys becomes a $10,000 vacation with the wives in tow.
Very few guys have a wife like mine that loves to camp and backpack around, she's like one of the boys and I can afford to take her with me.
I've tried taking buddies with me and very few can pull it off, don't worry about getting overrun with hoales.
As to guiding, Hawaii does not permit commercial guiding on public land, only private.
Therefore, the affordable hunt with the boys becomes a $10,000 vacation with the wives in tow.
Very few guys have a wife like mine that loves to camp and backpack around, she's like one of the boys and I can afford to take her with me.
I've tried taking buddies with me and very few can pull it off, don't worry about getting overrun with hoales.
As to guiding, Hawaii does not permit commercial guiding on public land, only private.
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I think it was in the May 20s. We're gonna try to do a two night trip down the Na'pali coast. I was just giving him advice to a random person asking me about maui hunting and offered to take him down the coast if he could make it to Kauai. Next thing I know, he's asking if I'ld like money for taking him. I said "I cannot legally accept money from you because I'm not a registered guide but if you want to guy me a dozen arrows as a gift..." He offered me a lot more than a dozen arrows!
So we'll see how it goes. I promised him that we would see a lot of game and claimed that we have a real good chance at coming across a trophy goat with over 20 inch wide horns. And that with any luck, we'll see something really big.
Before, I wasn't really sure how to become a guide but it seems like you register with the state, which I'm told costs 25 bucks, and then you just have to make an annual report. A friend of mine was looking into it before and said they told him to take a CPR course first. I've taken CPR, First Aid, and Wilderness first aid just for my work. Probably need a GE tax license, yeah?
I wonder what I could call it? I guess I'ld specialize in camping and hunting in remote areas. No hollywood hunts. Hawaii Backcountry Outfitters and Guide. ...What does outfitters mean? Maybe I'ld just be a guide; I can't really outfit people yet. Hawaiian Backcountry guide service. I could work on Kauai for archery goat & pig hunting down the coast, rifle pig hunting in the dense forest around Kaloko Ditchbank, up on Makaleha mountain for goats (weather permitting), and am willing to fly to the Big Island to guide for cows and pigs.
So we'll see how it goes. I promised him that we would see a lot of game and claimed that we have a real good chance at coming across a trophy goat with over 20 inch wide horns. And that with any luck, we'll see something really big.
Before, I wasn't really sure how to become a guide but it seems like you register with the state, which I'm told costs 25 bucks, and then you just have to make an annual report. A friend of mine was looking into it before and said they told him to take a CPR course first. I've taken CPR, First Aid, and Wilderness first aid just for my work. Probably need a GE tax license, yeah?
I wonder what I could call it? I guess I'ld specialize in camping and hunting in remote areas. No hollywood hunts. Hawaii Backcountry Outfitters and Guide. ...What does outfitters mean? Maybe I'ld just be a guide; I can't really outfit people yet. Hawaiian Backcountry guide service. I could work on Kauai for archery goat & pig hunting down the coast, rifle pig hunting in the dense forest around Kaloko Ditchbank, up on Makaleha mountain for goats (weather permitting), and am willing to fly to the Big Island to guide for cows and pigs.
man that would be an awesome job on the side. wish you didnt need a substantial chunk of private land.
EDIT: I was reading through the rule book and I cant find where it says you can only guide on private land...am I wrong?
EDIT: I was reading through the rule book and I cant find where it says you can only guide on private land...am I wrong?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (EvBouret @ Mar 25 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I can't see why you wouldn't be able to. The only rules I seen mentioning it is that you need to obtain a hunting license, even if you aren't actually hunting and that you still need to wear orange where required if you are serving as a guide. And because there are no orange requirements on private lands...
Here's what I found:
How to become a registered hunting guide in Hawaii
I can't see why you wouldn't be able to. The only rules I seen mentioning it is that you need to obtain a hunting license, even if you aren't actually hunting and that you still need to wear orange where required if you are serving as a guide. And because there are no orange requirements on private lands...
Here's what I found:
How to become a registered hunting guide in Hawaii
