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hey bowhunter I know you its john you seen those pigs too lets get together and hit one I found a nice spot when there in ther almost every morning
 

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Here's the Riverside ordinance, last update in 1996 so it may have changed since then. I may have mispoke on the rifle deal, looks like the only time you can shoot a rifle in the western zone is during deer season with a deer tag.

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Riverside County Shooting Regulations

ORDINANCE NO. 514.10 AN ORDINANCE OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 514 REGULATING THE USE AND DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS

The Board of Supervisors of the County of Riverside ordains as Follows:

Section 1. For the purpose of this ordinance, the following words are defined and shall be construed as having the following meanings:

a. FIREARM. The word "firearm" as used herein includes the following: cannon, gun, pistol, revolver, automatic pistol, rifle, shotgun, air gun, pellet gun and any other weapon designed to discharge one or more projectiles propelled by the expansion of gas.

b. LOADED RIFLE OR SHOTGUN. A rifle or shotgun shall be deemed to be loaded for the purposes of this ordinance when there is an unexpended cartridge or shell in the firing chamber but not when the only cartridges or shells are in the magazine.

Section 2. For the purpose of this ordinance the County is divided into two zones, the "Western Zone" and the "Eastern Zone."

a. The Western Zone is defined as: That portion of the County lying westerly of the following line: Beginning at the Riverside-San Bernardino County line on the center line of the Banning Canyon Road; thence Southerly, along the said center line of the Banning Canyon Road to a point of intersection with the center line of U.S. Highway 10; thence Westerly, along the said center line of U.S. Highway 10 to a point of intersection with the center line of Lambs Canyon Road, (now known as State Highway 79); thence Southerly and Easterly, along the said center line of State Highway 79 to a point of intersection with the center line of Soboba Road; thence Southeasterly, along the said center line of Soboba Road to the West line of Section 5, T5S, R1E, SMB; thence Southerly, along the said West line of Section 5, T5S, R1E, SBM., to the Southerly line of San Jacinto River; thence Easterly and Southeasterly, along the said Southerly line of San Jacinto River to the East line of Section 14, T5S, R1E, SBM., said East line of Section 14, also being a portion of the West boundary line of the San Bernardino National Forest; thence Southerly, along the said East line of Section 14, and Southerly along the said West line of the San Bernardino National Forestry Boundary, to the Southeast corner of Section 35, T5S, R1E, SBM.; thence Westerly, along the South lines of Section 35, 34, 33, 32, and 31, of T5S, R1E, SBM., and continuing Westerly along the South lines of Sections 36, 35 and the South line of the E of Section 34, to a point of intersection with the centerline of State Street, thence Southerly, along the said center line of State Street to a point of intersection with the center line of Cactus Valley Road; thence Easterly, along the said center line of Cactus Valley Road to a point of intersection with the center line of Sage Road; thence Southerly, Southeasterly and Easterly along the various courses of the said center line of Sage Road, to a point of intersection with the center line of the Temecula-Aguanga Road, (Also known as State Highway 71); thence Southeasterly, along the said center line of Temecula-Aguanga Road (Also known as State Highway 71) to a point of intersection with the Riverside-San Diego County line.

b. The Eastern Zone is defined as that portion of the County lying easterly of the line described in subsection a of this Section.

Section 3. It shall be unlawful in either the Western Zone or the Eastern Zone for any person to shoot or discharge any firearm within 300 yards of any occupied or unoccupied building, house or dwelling place, without the written consent of the owner or occupant thereof, or any shotgun within 150 yards, or any other firearm within 300 yards of any corral, paddock, feed yard, dairy, barn or other farm building where cattle, horses, sheep or other animals are raised, milked, fed, trained, housed or confined, without the written consent of the owner or operator thereof, or within 300 yards of any park, public campgrounds, or state riding and hiking trail, or for any person to shoot or discharge within 300 yards of any public highway, public road or public street any firearm other than a shotgun used in lawfully hunting game pursuant to a valid hunting license.

Section 4. It shall be unlawful in either the Western Zone or the Eastern Zone for any person to shoot or discharge within one mile of any incorporated city any firearm, other than a shotgun used in lawfully hunting game pursuant to a valid hunting license.

Section 5. It shall be unlawful in either the Western Zone or the Eastern Zone to shoot or discharge any firearm between one-half hour after sunset and one-half hour before sunrise of the following day.

Section 6. It shall be unlawful in the Western Zone for any person to shoot or discharge any firearm, or to have in his possession within said zone any loaded rifle or shotgun except as follows:

a. The discharging of a shotgun used in lawfully hunting game pursuant to a valid hunting license, or the possession of a loaded shotgun used in lawfully hunting game pursuant to a valid hunting license shall be permitted in the Western Zone during the period July 4 through January 15, inclusive, of each year; provided, however, that this subsection shall not be construed to permit the discharging to a shotgun or the possession of a loaded shotgun within the boundaries of any "Closed Area" described in Section 8 of this ordinance.

b. The discharging of a firearm used in lawfully hunting deer by persons possessing valid deer license tag or permits, or the possession of a loaded rifle or shotgun used in lawfully hunting deer by such persons shall be permitted in the following described area in the Western Zone during that deer hunting season as is from time to time prescribed for such area by the rules and regulations of the Fish and Game Commission, or by statute:

That portion of the Western Zone lying south and west of the following line:

U.S. Highway 60 easterly from the Riverside-San Bernardino County Line to U.S. Highway 395, U.S. Highway 395 southerly to State Highway 74, State Highway 74 easterly to County Road R-3 in the town of Hemet, southerly on County Road R-3 through the town of Sage to State Highway 71 at the town of Radec, Southeasterly on State Highway 71 to State Highway 79 near the town of Aguanga, southeasterly on State Highway 79 to the Riverside County Line.

Section 7. All county highways leading into the Western Zone shall be posted with appropriate signs indicating that the discharge of firearms, or the possession of loaded rifles or shotguns is prohibited except as permitted by the provisions of this ordinance.

Section 8. It shall be unlawful in either the Western Zone or the Eastern Zone for any person to shoot or discharge any firearm or to have in his possession any loaded rifle or shotgun within the boundaries of the hereinafter described areas, which areas are hereby set aside as "Closed Areas":

a. PINE COVE AREA. The southwest quarter of Section 1, the south half of Section 2, and all of Section 11, T5S, R2E.

b. RECHE CANYON AREA. Sections 11, 12 and 13, T2W, R4W, and Sections 7, 17, and 18 and the north of Section 19, T2S, R3W.

c. LAKE FULMOR AREA. Within mile on each side of Banning--Idyllwild Panoramic Highway between Vista Grande Forest Protection Station and the intersection of the Marion Mountain Road.

d. OLD BANNING-IDYLLWILD ROAD AREA. Sections 19, 20, 21, 29 and the South of Sections 16 and 17, T3S, R1E.

e. NORTHWEST AREA. The portion of the county lying northerly and westerly of the following described line: Beginning at the intersection of Limonite Avenue and the west county boundary; thence easterly along Limonite Avenue to Etiwanda Avenue; thence southerly along the line of Etiwanda Avenue to the center line of the Santa Ana River, thence easterly along the center line of the Santa Ana River to the city limit of the City of Riverside; thence easterly and northerly along said city limit to its northwesterly corner at Bowie Street; thence westerly to the east bank of the Santa Ana River; thence northerly along said east bank to the north county boundary.

f. CABAZON AREA. Sections 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 and 24, T3S, R2E, SBBM.

g. GARNER VALLEY AREA. Sections 9, 10, 15, 25 and 36 of T6S, R3E. Section 31, and 32 of T6S, R4E; the west half of Section 5, Section 6, North half of Section 7, Section 8, of T7S, R4E. Section 1 of T7S, R3E; excluding all property in those sections that are part of the U.S. National Forest and owned by the U.S. Government.

Section 9. All County highways leading into the said Closed Areas shall be posted with appropriate signs indicating that the discharge of firearms is prohibited within such areas.

Section 10. The provisions of this ordinance shall not apply to the following persons:

a. Any peace officer or member of the armed services while acting in the lawful discharge of his duties;

b. Any person using a firearm in the lawful defense of himself, another person or property;

c. Any person possessing a loaded firearm or discharging a firearm or causing a firearm to be discharged at an established firing, shooting or target range, or hunting or gun club, or on a properly constructed indoor home range on private property under his ownership or control;

d. Any person possessing a loaded firearm or discharging a firearm or causing a firearm to be discharged on private property under his ownership or control situated in the Eastern Zone, or any person possessing a loaded firearm or discharging a firearm or causing a firearm to be discharged on private property situated in the Eastern Zone after having first obtained the written consent of the owner or person controlling such property, except where the area in question is listed as a no shooting area under Section 8(g) in which case shooting shall be prohibited entirely.

Section 11. It shall be unlawful for any person to violate any provision of this ordinance. Any person violating any provision of this ordinance shall be deemed guilty of an infraction or misdemeanor as hereinafter specified. Such person shall be deemed guilty of a separate offense for each and every day or portion thereof during which any violation of any of the provisions of this ordinance is committed, continued, or permitted. Any person so convicted shall be: (1) guilty of an infraction offense and punished by a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars ($100.00) for a first violation; (2) guilty of an infraction offense and punished by a fine not exceeding two hundred dollars ($200.00) for a second violation. The third and any additional violations shall constitute a misdemeanor offense and shall be punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) or six (6) months in jail, or both. Notwithstanding the above, a first offense may be charged and prosecuted as a misdemeanor. Payment of any penalty herein shall not relieve a person from the responsibility for correcting the violation.

Section 12. If any provision, clause, sentence or paragraph of this ordinance or the application thereof to any person or circumstances shall be held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect the other provisions or applications of the provisions of this ordinance which can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this ordinance are hereby declared to be severable.

ADOPTED: 7-10-67 (Eff.: 8-9-67) AMENDED: 514.1 - 514.7 (Eff.: 10-9-80) 514.8 (Eff.: 4-13-89) 514.9 (Eff.: 1-18-96) 514.10 (Eff.: 6-13-96).
 

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Let me add more confusion to the topic (Disclaimer: I'm frequently wrong). If I'm not mistaken, Calimesa incorporated the said area a couple of years ago - which would make the 1996 ordinance obsolete. If I'm correct, hunting with a firearm would be out of the question. Bow hunting the area would be ok since there are no fences or signs. Count me in Powerstroke and Bowhunter , I'm a local. E-mail me : wild1forever@hotmail.com
 

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Wild1, I am going in the A/M Saturday. Wanna go and check it out
Cameron, are you in?
Randy
 

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Good Lord, time to find another spot now everyone is going to hit this so it probably will be posted soon. !!!!!!!!

Eric I will try and call you shortly...
 

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Hey guys i'm from ontario. THis might be a little to late since i haven't been checking the Hog forum here, but let me know if you guys need another set of eyes. I've heard about the same place you guys are talking about where there is hogs. One of the tribal leader from morongo was telling me about that area. Is it close to the golf course?
 

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No. No hunting in the reserve. Most of the discussion was centered on hunting a location very near to the reserve that wasn't fenced and/or posted as private property. The reserve itself is off limits to any kind of hunting.
 

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I haven't researched this, but would talking to a local butcher help?
Do pig tags identify location of the kill?
Maybe in conversation the butcher might suggest "I see a lot of hogs coming from XXXX area".

How about Hog Hunter's magazine? For fee guides but at least you might find a place to hunt.

Somehow hook up with the farmers/ranchers/land owners. My brother has done some construction/remodeling for a farmer with 40 parcels.
The farmer asked my brother, "can you help me get rid of some hogs". Brother got really lucky, and he and a buddy slammed 4 hogs one afternoon (one of 20 outings I might add), 15 minutes from his home!

Good luck.
 

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QUOTE (CA_pheasant @ Oct 10 2007, 10:18 PM)
Do pig tags identify location of the kill?
Supposedly... I know I have difficulty pinpointing exactly where a pig comes from sometimes...
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QUOTE (Speckmisser @ Sep 24 2007, 07:54 AM) http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=907177
Criteria for private landowners who don't want people on their land.
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Unposted, unfenced land is open (according to CA law), even though it may be privately owned. May not make you any friends with the landowner, but the worst they can do is tell you to get off. If you come back after that, then you may be prosecuted.
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So, just to make this more confusing...why should you leave? A guy claiming to own the land tries to shoo you off and you just go? It is not posted, it is not fenced...so why would you believe he really owns it? Perhaps he is an enviro freak or a hunter who does not want the competition, or a dope grower. I know on first instinct it seems pretty unreasonable to ask a man to prove he owns the land, but if he has not posted it or fenced it, I think asking for some proof he owns it is pretty reasonable. Then when you return and get "prosecuted" you say you were never warned, and he had no credibility, so you didn't believe him. I am bringing this up because it has been done. I have a warden who is a friend, so I am not going to elaborate, but suffice it to say...land owners have a responsibility in this too, and it is defendable in court.

However Spec hit it on the head, better to ask first and do it right to avoid it all...
 

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QUOTE (Speckmisser @ Sep 24 2007, 07:54 AM)
Criteria for private landowners who don't want people on their land.
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Unposted, unfenced land is open (according to CA law), even though it may be privately owned. May not make you any friends with the landowner, but the worst they can do is tell you to get off. If you come back after that, then you may be prosecuted.
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QUOTE (acousticmood @ Sep 21 2007, 01:48 PM)
So, just to make this more confusing...why should you leave?
Real simple. If the person tells you to leave and really IS the landowner (or a caretaker), then you have been notified that you are trespassing, and are at that moment breaking the law unless you leave the property.

If you're on unposted, private property and someone tells you to leave, it's in your best interest to do so. Sure, there's always a chance that it's not really the landowner. You have no way of knowing for sure (without going and doing research), but the one thing you do know for sure that it's not your land.

You can always fight the case in court and take your chances, but personally, I'd just as soon not go that route...even if I'm pretty sure I'm in the right.
 

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Hey guys. Glad to hear about the interest around here in the area. I also live in the IE (Riverside) and can confirm with you that there are guaranteed pigs here locally with minutes drive. In fact I can confirm a 463 pound male boar was taken last November with a bow on a farmers propery I have access to. It has taken me a while but do have two private land owners permission and have taken pigs earlier this spring.

Haven't been out since my liscense expired in June, haven't even bought this years one yet, but am itching to get out and bag some pork.
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Please keep me informed with the scouting info you find out. I am also interested in meeting up with you guys. Something closer to home for me would work better for me, I work average 12-14 hour days in Long Beach. How about here in Riverside one evening? Let me know what you guys think.

Surfswest

ps. Be careful what info you share about secret or non-secret spots, everyone reads these posts.
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QUOTE (Wild1 @ Oct 13 2007, 07:00 AM)
Hey Surfwest, we tried to hook up last year - let's try again, I'm in Riverside also. E-mail me: wild1forever@hotmail.com
Hey guys - I'd like to hook up with you also if that's o.k. - I'm strictly a rifle hunter, but if that doesn't work on the property I could tag along and take video or photos - I really just need to learn a few things about hunting anything with legs.

I've got access to all the land maps for the area too - if that helps.

If that's cool - PM me - Id be greatfull. If not cool - no problem - good luck!

George
 

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If you still need somebody for a party, count me in if you can. I am in North San Bernardino. I am always looking for others who love to hunt hogs. Especially close hogs. shoot me a message and we will hook up and go...

Randy
 

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Got a pic of that 463 lb. boar Surf. That be one big rooter.
 

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How about this guys. I know this great place here in downtown Riverside called the Royal Falconer. It's a great old British pub and its got great beer and even better food. Anyway, how about a meet up there? Say on Wed evening around 8 pm? This sound good to everyone? Anyone in the area is welcome, be a rifle, shotgun, handgun, or a bow hunter of boars. Please just respond here to this post if you can make it and lets make it happen.
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Here is a link for the pub:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1...683562297662920


As for that pic of the big boar, I don't have a copy myself, but know where I can get one and will try to get a copy this week to post up. Might even have it by Wed for those to see in person (the pic that is, not the boar!!!!!!)

Surfswest
 
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