Where NOT to hunt.

[F350]

Boarbuster,
all of our hogs were not domestic. It started out that wild hogs were released here. While there are escapees that have bread with wilds, it takes a couple of generations for them to turn feral.

As far as "What does it matter?"....To a lot of us it does matter if the hogs are kept captive. It eliminates "Fair Chase".

Perhaps I should invite you to read some of the posts in this thread.
You may find it quite enlightening. There are even some great pictures that show the difference between real wild hogs and "Auction Pigs" that are simply released on an oversized fenced farm.

Thanks for your input though.
"Nuff Said"

 

[boarbuster]

f350

I worded my last post wrong. hogs were released in the very begening. william randolph hearst brought the true russian in and released them. they also used to run hogs like cattle.

as far as to each his own ghoes. some people may not mind the put and take ranches. and thats fine who am i to say they cant like it. as far as im concerned i dont want to hunt a floppy ear curly tail pig. true wild hogs dont have floppy ears and curly tails.

i have read every post in this thread. enlighting no, sad yes they asked where not to hunt. not high fence or no. i am very knowledgeable when it comes to wild hogs. i started hunting them in 87 and my family was hunting them in the early 70s. i hvae guidedfull time and still do every once in awhile for a friend in parkfield.
now as far as the orignal post goes i have never been on a guided hunt so i cant say where not to go.

 

[F350]

"Fair Nuff" Boarbuster.

Now,
Will you help me get a dang Hog?

 

[hicntry]

One thing I have to say that no one has mentioned. The three hogs in the pic from
Big Horn looked like they had a lot of good eatin on them compared to most wild hogs.

 

[hogshot]

Check this out. I live in Bakersfield, Ca. I was out back digging a hole for my deep pit barbecue and I came to a realization. While I'm standing in my backyard all of the hogs are fenced. You see I have a 6 foot wood fence around my house and since I am standing in the backyard and have to go through the gate to reach hog country,the hogs are essentially fenced in in the rest of the state, so I guess I'll have to give up hog hunting!
Come on boys, we are really splitting hairs here. I might have missed, but I don't recall anyone saying that hunting at BHCR is making them the next coming of Tom Willoughby. To each his own. And please, let's realize that we are BOYS and NOBODY is going to change someone elses mind. Agree?
Jason

However I would not hunt their and even shamed my brother into cancelling his reservation there. And, I have 2 hogs in the freezer that I shot with a guide in January, and let me tell you, that was easy! 2 hogs AND 2 misses in about 2 hours.

 

[F350]

Hicntry,
I don't think anyone's disputing they're good eatin'.
They just weren't hunted...They were killed. As far as fences are concerned, I've hunted only Private ranches up till now and have had more than my fair share of hogs run through the fence. I also have no problem with guides or any other take method. And....Even if you do go to a "put and take" ranch, that's your business but it's still not Hunting.

 

[Bishop]

So if you hunt one of the ranches in Texas, California, New Mexico, that stock exotics like, Ibex, Corsican Rams, Mouflon Rams, Fallow Deer, Red Stag, Texas Dalls, Black Buck, Spanish Goat, Rambuillet Rams, Axis Deer, Nilgai Antelope, etc., your not really hunting?

And of course if you catch hatchery trout instead of hiking in for the wild ones, your not really fishing.

Sounds a little narrow minded to me.

 

[F350]

"Hog & Javelina Hunting"

Isn't that the forum we're in?

And actually, NO it's still not hunting if they're keeping them in one place for you.

Practice? Yes, Killing? Yup, Hunting? Gimme a break!

Oh! and seeing as you've annexed the fishing forum...No, Fish hatcheries aren't really fishing either. It's Harvesting at best. You already KNOW the fish are there.
C'mon ! Is this ever gonna end?

 

[boarbuster]

what about wild hogs on an island. they are contained by the water. preatty much the same thing as a fende right. so i should not hunt them because their is a barrier and they cant run a million miles if they want to.

 

[hicntry]

Your righjt F350, I would not condier it hunting by "my" standards and neither would you and many others. But, what about the new hunter that grew up in a family of non hunters? Someone that has never been, nor has a clue about hunting. That may be what he needs to get the feel for it....success will do more for a beginner than twenty times in the field without even seeing a hog. It gives him a story to tell, no matter how embellished. As time goes on, he will look for more challenging hunts, meet more hunters, and LEARN MORE about hunting. I know where you are coming from but those places may hook more first timers than any other because they were successful. Most people consider deer hunting a real challenge. The area I hunt is D7.....a 6% to 7% success ratio. I kill a deer every year and don't consider it really hunting. I know where the deer move and I take a bucket, a pair of cross sticks, Winchester model 70 in 300mag, and binoculars to a point on a ridge where I can see the whole ridge on the opposite side. I set up in the evening on the last weekend usually, and glass the other ridge until I see what I want. The challenge is making the 300 to 500 yd shot. To me, that's not hunting...it's putting venison in the freezer. The deer didn't even know I was there.

 

[F350]

"Fair Nuff" Hicntry,
I definately see your point.

Boarbuster,
Are you sure that's your handle? "Boar"- buster.
Seems like you're busting something else as far as this post is concerned.
We can speculate till the hogs fly with all the "What-if's" and try like heck to defend our actions. Fact is, this wasn't to put anyone on the defense. It was supposed to be a "Fact Sharing" post.

Where would you personally recommend people NOT go to hunt hogs and why?
I guess most of us are guilty of going off topic from time to time, Myself included.

Had to edit, think I need "Huked on fonix".

 

[boarbuster]

f350

im not busting anything else. i belive we need to stick to gether on the hunting and not look down on somebody because they went hunting behind a fence for a hog. if you dont like that style of hunting then dont hunt that way. some people dont mind where the hog came from. they just see it as pork in the freezer.

and for the original topic. i have never been on a guided hunt. so i cant tell you where not to go. i hunt 99% private land. i do hunt some public but not too often.the only guide i have heard bad things about is t bone.

 

[F350]

BB, Wasn't really about guided hunts or even types of land or method of take for that matter.

It reads: WHERE not to hunt in your opinion.

If you hunt only public land, Great! But is there any public land you would not hunt?

Where, as in "Place".

Furthermore, "Why" is not to judge or attack, it's to validate the persons opinion.

Example: I will never hunt hogs in Van Nuys Calif. Because there are no Hogs there.
OR

I will never hunt with "Billy the Basehead" as my guide.

 

[huntducks]

Guys remember to each his own, don't look down your nose at someone till you walk a mile in there shoe's, if you feel better about walking 10 miles in fine with me go for it, just don't judge someone as a poor hunter or what ever that does not.

I have been thinking about going to BHC with a pistol for one of there goat or sheep hunts.