THE ROMAN ARCHER

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Norcaljc please read my first #1 original post thourghly can see I called him out on his agenda politely to respond on my actuations.

Now read post #22 thourghly and u will understand he a chance to explain and didnt. What more proof so u need.

If u feel he's a great guy then hook up with him and prove us wrong. No one's stopping u. And then u might have the hunt of your life or maybe a nightmare like mine.

No one is trying to slam tbe guy.

This post I started was to look out for u guys to not make the same mistake I made but I guess u can't save the world.

If u newbies think us veteran jho members are a ruff bunch of mean hard ass's who make it tuff on newbies Then I guess u haven't tried other bowhunting sights U guys would be leaving those sites with your A$$, $ handed to u and royaly with major butt hurt.


JESSE HAS WORKED HARD TO CHANGE THAT TYPE OF ATTITUDE TWOARDS NEWBIES HERE AND HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, U WON'T FIND A BETTER GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO HELP U NEWBIES , SOME FIT IN AND SOME DONT.
THE ONE'S THAT DONT ARE THE ONE'S TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE GREAT GUYS AND GALS, INCLUDING ME.....TRA

JESSE I HOPE U FIND THIS POST EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIONABLE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE AND I THINK IT DESERVES TO BE PINNED WITH 5 YELLOW STARS.....THANK U ...TRA





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lol man Ive been reading all these replies and yes TRA is correct if you went to any other forum you would either be rediculed badly or ignored completely. Ive talked crap to others in other forums who treated new guys like that but it is what it is. People do it to themselves. What TRA is trying to say is all new guys should introduce themselves and talk to people before asking for help instead of just jumping right in and asking for help. Do some reading there is plenty of good info on the site. Just need some time to look it up. Also if someone does decide to teach you how to hunt, fish or whatever outdoor sport they are trying to teach them you need to listen to what they are saying. They are successful because they know what they are doing and dont try to tell them they are wrong. That is one thing people hate is that a new guy telling someone who knows what they are doing is wrong. Unless you have proof please dont try to prove someone wrong
 

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The bottom line if everybody in California decided that they wanted to eat wild venison or pork we would have a problem
 

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When I first joined one of my first posts was asking if anyone wanted to join me on a hunt on private property I have access to. Of course I had plenty of replies of people wanted to come. But I got one PM for BigSurArcher telling me to be careful of people who will to advantage of my offer.
I contacted one gentleman named Joe and after a few weeks of talking we met and had a great time(even though the weather was horrible).
The next person I took up there just happens to be the nicest MAN I've had the pleasure of meeting let alone hunting with. California is gonna miss you TRA.

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Hello everyone, my name is "Ricky Bobby" my friends call me Colt.....short for "Colt 45 " hehehehe Anyone want to share with me their favorite huntin spot. Shoooot. Ive damn near shot one of everything west of the Mississippi! But hell, I promise not to turn into an ahole til after you show me your hunin spot. :)

Great thread TRA - Amen to that.
 

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When I first joined one of my first posts was asking if anyone wanted to join me on a hunt on private property I have access to. Of course I had plenty of replies of people wanted to come. But I got one PM for BigSurArcher telling me to be careful of people who will to advantage of my offer.
I contacted one gentleman named Joe and after a few weeks of talking we met and had a great time(even though the weather was horrible).
The next person I took up there just happens to be the nicest MAN I've had the pleasure of meeting let alone hunting with. California is gonna miss you TRA.

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Shoooot. Id love to make you a hillbillie sandwich! Then will you give me your favorite huntin spot....lol :) Dang people I swear.
 

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Well my spidey senses are tingling again with the fluctuation of new JHO members in the last 4 mo. that some of u newbies are genuine and have good intention joining JHO and u know how give and know how to receive and then there are some that are here today and gone tomorrow after they get what they want or don't get what they want.

So I want to bring this subject up again as a refresher for some of us and for newbies or veterans who never read it. Please take the time to read and review all the post u will find it interesting. If your intentions here on JHO are pure and want to be apart of this special family then welcome to JHO from the bottom of my hart and if not please don't waste our time or yours. Thank u...tra

P.S. Oh yeh And what ever happened to Shu Lace....exactly and I told u all so.......here today gone tomorrow.....
 

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They do seem to come around Deer season, there are a few walking that fine line as you pointed out. PS it was good to talk to you on the cell, thank you Nick.
 

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I am a newbie here but not on some other boards. I understand exactly what you guys are saying about one post wonders who want the world of knowledge that has been gained by time spent in the field as well as info shared with others on public forums. If you do not add something to the conversation or at least try to contribute do not expect everyone to share their knowledge just because you joined. In general guys on these forums are not rude just because you are new. It is how you approach the situation that makes a world of difference. If your first post is where do I catch a 10 pound bass or how do I find a big buck in some hunting zone you just got a tag for the other members are going to look at you as a taker only and not someone willing to contribute anything. Besides if YOU knew where that big buck lived would you post it on a public forum?? Getting some general hunting info and sharing info is what these places are for not for finding some one else's honey hole. Questions about bows, guns, bullets and any other equipment will usually get good responses but the questions about exactly what canyon to hunt are not going to get someone very far especially to start with.
Oh and for all of you veteran guys I have D 3-5 tags this year so please PM me your big buck spots. I promise I will not post about it or take any of my buddies there. LOL
Hopefully some of the new guys understand what I am saying but who knows.
John
 

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As a new guy this has been one hell of an interesting discussion to read. My biggest concern is that my enthusiasm turns me into some crazy troll. I grew up loving the idea of hunting but unfortunately my country family relocated to the city and my dad stopped hunting by the time I was born. Now as a newly minted husband I can't help but think about my future kids and the types of adventures I want to take them on to help raise and shape them as they grow up. That being said I know very little about hunting and only slightly more about fishing. That is what brought me to JHO in the first place.

After weeks of looking online for tips on deer and bear hunting I visited this site enough to convince myself to sign up. I have yet to have any success on public land. At least I saw a turkey back in May. Though the story of that hunt is for another thread entirely. I came here looking for advice and direction not "honey holes." (For the record though I am not opposed to any GPS coordinates for said "honey holes", that was a joke or a failed attempt at humor)

For all of you veterans that have been hosed and screwed by a new guy I take it upon myself to apologize for their behavior. At the same time I ask that you please do not lose hope in us new guys. You may not have to throw us a bone but any advice on how to dig up one ourselves would be much appreciated.
 

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I am sorry to hear about your negative expirences but I just hope you do not allow one bad apple to ruin the bunch. I too was once a new hunter desperate for information. I have met some great people here and a few I have even hunted and stayed with in ut. I hope someday that I can return that favor to someone else. I guess my point is, hunting nod hunters already have enough people trying to keep them down, let's not do it to ourselves. As one day all of us will reach point where we can no longer physically be outdoors and unless we have shared our passion with others and made believers out of them the whole system will come crashing down. Just my 2 cents.
 

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you know what? i think the KEY to success is to meet first.

meet at the bowrange, get a beer, whatever. see if your first impression is good. i've had some AWESOME experiences on both sides of the fence. JKVshooter (he seldom posts anymore) and i decided to try lake sonoma together. neither of us had ever been, so we were not risking any intel..we were both walking blind. we hit it off awesome. i now consider him one of my best friends. we have done so much together since..he as taken me to good spots..and we discovered AZ archery together.

i vote you take a chance. JKV's friendship opened up doors to about 4 other guys that hunt and fish..i can barely keep up with the opportunities. i find myself telling people i cannot go. (EGADS!)

i did it again. i decided to step outside my comfort zone. i shared my deer points with a great new bud. Void...i hate hunting solo and he had no points and this great ability to read hunting statistics..krap puts me to sleep. he loves the stuff. he found us a great reachable spot with the amount of points we shared. hell, if i had one wish..i wish i had MORE points so we could have included another great person..but no.

dont worry so much about hunt opportunities...you could discover new ones together..and then you know something we dont..you can give us the silent treatment and the virtual finger.

meet first..it works. good luck everyone.
 

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Thanks Nick for drudging up that memory. Now I am angry for making him a delicious fire pit cooked pizza that first night when you showed up late at camp.
 

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Meet first is a good idea, solus and i went on a gold panning excursion and i had one hell of a good time with Andy, we found no gold but we sure had a good time trying.
 

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Talk to any college kid with room mates, and they will tell you a similar story. It starts off friendly but by the end of the semester each roommate is convinced the other is the devil incarnate. I tend to think this is just human nature. Not every human is going to get along with every other human. The better man is the one who manages to walk away without badmouthing anyone.

So true. My daughter ended up with a bipolar roommate first semester, which is fine, but she refused to take her meds. That was the problem. You can imagine the rest. I hooked up with 7magpighunter and his brother and they were a lot of fun to be with. Super enthusiastic about their passion for hunting and super great guys. They had no issues with me hunting with them on their public land honey hole for pigs and I'm fine with that because I'd rather find my own honey hole as opposed to take someone else's. My wife thought we had a bromance going on the week before the hunt because we were so excited for the trip. So glad I did it but I will say, we communicated for a year before we ever met up to hunt. If it's someone I haven't seen on here a lot or haven't communicated with a lot, I wouldn't take the chance but that's just me. Good hunting everyone be careful.
 

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From now on I will just be giving general advice about certain zones and such.

That's all I've ever asked for. As a newbie, I fear I've already learned more from you guys than I can ever give back. I'm grateful that you guys are here. Happy hunting all. I hope I accidentally run into you in some honey holes without bumping your game off!
 

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My name is rich and I like turtles. Is that enough information for you to teach me the ways and show me the honey holes? Lol, just playng around. I'm new here and new to the bow hunting world, but with that said you have hunt and learn from your mistakes and not wait around for someone to teach you. I wish you all the best of luck this year and hope to many run into some of you. I don't post a lot but I am around like your ex-gf, lurking in the background and not going away.
 

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It's been awhile since I've been here on the forum but it's good to be back.
And "this" is the first post I read?
When I was running the "norman status" I asked a lot of questions and got pretty good a response.
I never asked the "Where" question only the how. well maybe a where question.
What I did do is share my spots, the few I had with vets on here.
AND, and they paid off for them. I talked with UNCLE BAMBI for an hour on site and didn't know
who he was till I got back online here.
So a lesson to the Normans. hunting is hard. damn hard.
walk the walk and you will learn to talk the talk. earn it.
you won't have to ask...Where?
 

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